lol i like your enthusiasm Cruel so i will build 1600 and see how it goes, hwoever i still dont see how u thin k this event can be completed

on your time frames it will have taken nearly 2 weeks to prison at L45, 55 will be harder and 65 will be harder still and 65 is starting from 0 basically not even counting down to 5 regardless how thats calculated i just dont see it happening.

Im not even sure those L65 guys are even bothering, the leading player has added about 175 skill points since the event has started, now im not sure how much has been put into the event but it doesnt appear that the building phase has been taken very seriously by the L65 group ( i could be wrong that is just an assumption)

however for your enthusiasm i will put 1600 in at least over next few days and will reassess my position on the event once ive done that.

Now you are talking!!!
This is the attitude we need. If everybody does the same, we will send all those queens to hell!!
And if you think about it, the sacrifice is not so big. We still get the luck points and what the clan loses is minimal. In my case, 1,600 build will cost around 70,000 SE. The soul well of my clan (which is not that big) produces that amount in 48h. And even for the higher level players, I am pretty sure the SE required for the 1,600 build is lower than the clan's soul well, which fills itself in less than a week. I believe it is a small price to win the event.

Cruel.

I would love to see a formula for how many builds or SE is needed to imprison a queen. I think this would help settle peoples minds on what to do for the event and how many people are actually working toward the final goal.

Numbers differ for each server, depending on the activity and number of players. But you can change it pretty easily, do like 10 builds and note down the percentage before and after.

My cost is around 1,600 SE per build (40 builds) and I increase the lvl 35 prison by 0.04%. So this means my 1,600 builds will create 1.6% of the prison.
Maybe someone from queens 45 and 55 could post how much % they get for 40 builds and how much SE it costs. When queen 45 is imprisoned, guys from lvl 41-50 could see what happens. Then we can be certain of which of the 2 scenarios we have been discussing we are facing.
Scenario 1 - Lvl 41-50 guys build less (percentagewise) than lvl 51-60 guys. This is the good scenario. It means the prisons require a certain number of SE, and not builds. I believe we can make it in this case, because when lvl 65 is gone, lvls 25, 15 and 5 will be pretty easy.

Scenario 2 - This is the bad scenario. Lvl 41-50 guys build the same (percentagewise) as lvl 51-60 guys. It means the prisons require a certain number of builds, and not SE. Well, in this case, we are screwed because we won't be able to finish the low level queens.

We will figure it out in a couple of days.

Cruel.

Now that queens started to drop more players will be bulilding the same cage, so every day we will see faster completions. The problem i see its the queen level 85, it seems there are not enough players working on it.

For the top 2 queens only 6 total people can work on them. That is why the builds are so low for those 2, and why I was hoping a formula or at least a modest guess would be posted for how much each queen takes to imprison. It helps that 3 sets will soon be working together, but the event is 1/2 over. I just hope people keep working toward the goal and lower levels are easier to fill.

I'll be building to the end ( I like the event )

Idézet: Cruel01 - 2011.02.15. 01:28:05

Tested the building for the 55-category on world 2. Each build for 3510 SE with Building 41 gave 0.04%.
Unfortunately this looks like scenario 2 above.



Miklos, is the building the same when we have finished one cage and start building on the next? Or how does that work?

this event is a complete and total dead loss

i just put about 50k into it and dropped it by 2% lmao

no way no how no matter what u guys think will we win this event.

im still gonna do the 1600 builds but i wont be doing anything over that cos its all dead se

23k into w3 @ 1498se per build and it went from 91.85% to 92.62%

total waste of time

@Sbart
You getting 0.04% per build is absolutely normal and expected, because you are building the prison for your own queen. We will only be able to define if we are facing scenarios 1 or 2 when someone lvl 41-50 starts building for queen 55. If they get the same as you (0.04%), then we are facing scenario 2 and we are done. If they get less than you, it means we are facing scenario 1 and we will have a shot.

@Doomlord
I am a little confused. Are you saying you were able to increase your prison by 2% without reaching 1,600 builds?
But Sbart said he is also getting 0.04% per 41 build (which will add up to roughly 1.6% for 1,600, the same amount as queen 35)
Do you have building at less than 40?
If this is the case, we must celebrate becuase this means what matters is the SE invested and not the number of builds.

Cruel.

The hard part is to destroy the top queens. When they are gone, no matter how much the lower ones need, they will go in a day or 2 since very high level players will be hitting them and building the cages

In W3 all the queen were defeated but not imprisoned, so it is regenerating in time and humiliating us.
just check our lvl 55 queen just 3.2% hehe (There was ~4 people in lvl 55 category)
There is no way out, we need to finish this off.

55. Oarthuen, the Horror Defeated by:Tentacle 3.2 %
45. Whrrax, the devourer Defeated by:Tentacle 60.81 %
35. Ashezthun, from the Deep Defeated by:Tentacle 98.16 %
25. Qwrethloan, the fearsome Defeated by:Tentacle 28.64 %
15. Brztlan, the dreadful Defeated by:Tentacle 6.43 %
5. Dg-kleothon, the terrible Defeated by:Tentacle 4.61 %


10, 20, 30, 40 bonus to trade skill for half year (but does not increase the skill beyond maximum) : i can easily upgrade my trade skill to lvl 40 permanently with the amount of SE which i am going to build.
There is still lot of time time left to change the rewards which will be more useful to us.

There is not much active members left, so bulk of the burdens goes to regular players like us.
Otherwise put the penalty details along with rewards in the Xeno Wars page, that might help.

Idézet: Cruel01 - 2011.02.16. 01:42:03

the w2 % above was an estimate i forgot to check it before i built lol

my building is at 40

i have now finished the 1600 builds

Builds: 1633

thats it for me this event is a total loss there is no way the top level queens will get done.

The prison build cost varies from server to server, and was calculated based on the number of active players. We are going to adjust it so it will be more doable.

thank you:)

Builds: 1625 w3

ok now i can feel better about doing more builds:)

and Cruel i m glad i let u talk me into doing the 1600

My pleasure

If everybody plays their part, we will send all those queens to hell!!!
Queen lvl 45 emprisoned in W2. Queen 55 almost there.

Cruel.

P.S. Miklos, any break you can give us is welcome.

I just did few builds at the 55 level (W2) ie one level above my own and it is still 0.04 per build (I have build=40)