OMG!

Who wrote Faure's Requiem?

Ludwig Beethoven
Wolfgang Mozart
Gabriel Faure
Cesar Franck

The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators your question is ambiguous.

It could not be LESS ambiguous. It is stunningly obvious. far more so than so many questions about Hungarian folklore. Get a grip evaluators. Just because you get the questions wrong does not make them bad.

My special question in the quiz is:

Which word is NOT spelled according to the British english?

labour
center
sabre
honour

It is accepted. BUT what a shame in an english language game... so far not a single correct answer.

There is more than just British English. I actually had to search for the correct answer and English is my first language.

it should've got 'too easy' or even gone through.. but this one is not the topic you should've posted your question.... next time please use "My quiz question was rejected", thanks.

Where was Quaid-e-Azam born?
Lahore
Islamabad
Karachi
Multan

Who? What? Not specialised? LOL

Qquaid-e-Azam MA Jinnah, The Founder Of Pakistan, That Father of Pakistan. Thats no more specalized than asking about the first president of the usa or the founder of google

Idézet: stekkos - 2010.06.17. 18:42:49

Fair enough, but I don't recall seeing a question asking in which city Washington was born. Also, know your participants - Let's say 33% of your players are from the US. I can say with confidence that 33% of the players aren't from Pakistan, or even the whole Middle East Combined.

That question shouldn't have passed. It's both VERY "Specific Group" AND "Lexical / Uninteresting"

The question that should have been asked would be "What country was Qquaid-e-Azam MA Jinnah the founder of?" Just as difficult for 98% of the players here, but as you are so happy to say, this question would have value in knowing... The original question about what city he was born in simply doesn't provide any beneficial knowledge.

You didnt see any question about where was washington born since noone asked about it. He is a very famous historical figure and it would be accepted. And the percentage of players has nothing to do with evaluations. If we accept a type of question for the prominant figure or founder of one nation, then we accept for any. If they would like to also add the who is the founder of Pakistan question it wil also be a good one and will provide some better knowleadge about the subject. That does not make the current question bad though

I hate to say it the quiz section in the game is stupid. No one follows the rules. For pete sakes. I found a question about Magic the Gathering. Really why do you have rules like this one "Do not ask ones that demand lexical knowledge (like dates) or that is known only by a special group (e.g. Magic the Gathering, comics etc.)." When you going to let it slide anyway. To have a question about sports would be like me asking you a high tech computer question. Yet there is so many questions that have broken the quiz rules. I can understand math/science/history/geogrophy as they are only punish people that are not smart. Having a question about Sports, TV, Music, Books, Video Game, Comic, and Movies punishing people that might not like those fields of culter. As well as having questions like the first primister of a country punish people who do not live in your land. I hate to call you guys out but if you going pull this shit and not even open your own rules. Then take out the quiz from the game. The Quizes are so poorly controlled. It seems like you only say no to a question if it poorly word or it something you guess do not care about. Stop it. Stop it at once. Remove the quiz. Give everyone 10% more SE from hunts for the Dev being lazy and not abiding by the rules that they set up.

What you say is actually change the game to fit you. Personally i dont mind the fact that i answer questions for subjects i never liked. After all, the ones i like i know the answers anyway. Learning about the rest is what makes the quiz interesting. Sure, a lot of the info are useless to me but a lot other are not. That goes for the majority of the players. As for the rules not being followed, its not the case. The rules got refined and changed, there is a rules update in the quiz topic which tells what is being followed now. For example, no subject is dissmissed altogether like the Magic gathering you mentioned. Everything is accepted if they do not go into too much detail. ANd ofcourse mistakes do happen for those rules as well, thats why there is the chance for anyone to debate the correctness of a question. But the quiz is part of this game. That will not change.

What breed of dog might you see riding on the Budweiser Wagon, as it's pulled by a team of Clydesdales?

German shepherd
St. Bernard
Chihuahua
Dalmatian


The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer

Evaluators must lead a sheltered life

Idézet: FLO2 - 2010.07.19. 03:28:41

Either that, or you drink too much beer. That's a horrible question!

Idézet: Viridel - 2010.07.19. 20:32:25

Proof we can't please everyone.

Personally I'd rather welcome so called 'specialised knowledge' questions, finding the answer to those may often lead you towards some interesting information I don't quite understand what's wrong with specialised knowledge, most answers are googled anyway. And since no adequate definition for specialised knowledge can be given, although I appreciate the efforts made, it would be best to just abandon it.
Just imagine everybody asking questions in their own area of expertise. The questions would be much more interesting since the asker is much more knowledgeable about the topic. And who cares if you get one or two wrong answers, the loss of 10% SE isn't going to kill you surely and everybody else faces the same questions as you do. I for one would enjoy hunting more if I learned something n
Things like names of inventors, actors, authors, directors, athletes and other 'famous' people or even their wives or kids are in my opinion 100% boring. If you're going to ask something, ask about the inventions themselves, their most famous works, their achievements, what inspired them, what impact they had on the world or ask to place something in the correct time period. Ask something with actual meaning, don't ask what name his/her dad happened to fancy.
I don't know how others enjoy the quiz questions, but what I enjoy most is to come across interesting information I otherwise would never have seen. Allowing specialised questions would certainly increase the frequency of these pleasant occasions.

Idézet: MsPiggy - 2010.08.15. 03:25:32

You can't just abandon it, though. Otherwise, I could ask what I ate for breakfast on a given date, and it would have to be accepted. There has to be some kind of line. Personally, I'd like to see something that takes several factors into account. Maybe something like:

How specialized is the subject? Rate -3 to +3
How easy is it to find the answer via google? Rate -2 to +2
How well written is the question? Rate -1 to +1
How educational is the question? Rate -1 to +1

If the question gets a negative total, reject it. Otherwise accept it. It wouldn't need to be that formalized; the numbers were just to illustrate how different factors could be weighted, showing that if a question is well written, educational, and easy to answer via google, it can be extremely specialized and still get accepted in my little theory. This would still involve a lot of judgment calls on the part of the evaluators, and not everyone would agree with the factors I think are important. But that's how I'd do it if I got to be dictator of evaluators.

A scoring system just might be it.

That's quite a good idea imo.

Idézet: ImLittleJon - 2010.08.15. 18:49:51

well indeed. I didn't quite think about something like your breakfast...
I like your idea of a rating system where different factors are taken into account, it would probably result in a bunch of complaints of people whose questions got rejected, but that's bound to happen anyway. And like you said, everybody will have their own view about the qualities that are important for a good questions, but such is the case with any set of rules, so it shouldn't be a problem.

An additional idea:
When submitting a question, one has to choose which category it belongs to.
Everybody gets the option to select a few categories which they don't want any questions about. What is interesting to one person can be very boring to others after all.
Also, to increase the diversity of questions, one can get more SE for asking a question in a category that has fewer questions already recorded.
There could also be a category about doomlord, where one would have to set a minimum level for the question to be asked.

Piggy, you have excellent ideas. They would work if only this was a trivia site devoted solely to that. The quiz is just a part of the whole expirience. Some players do not even hunt so that part of the game does not affected them at all, while they are active members of doomlord. Making the quiz more complex with categories and scoring or various rewards would not help much, most likely the opposite. What would help, and i invite someone or a group of you to do is get 2-3 of the ideas you post here and create a topic. Then ALL the players can be invited to JUST VOTE. Each idea gets a different vote, yes or no. I would really like to see what actually makes most of the players happy, not just debates.

Idézet: stekkos - 2010.08.20. 18:17:50


Ok, here's my suggestion, formulated over time as I've become more familiar with how the quiz system works as a whole.

a) More Mods - Way more Mods

b) Questions get reviewed separately from the Hunt - so a wrong answer doesn't penalize a Mod 10%, and there is no 5 minute limit.

c) Mods get 1/2 their level (rounded up) SE for each question they moderate - regardless of whether it's approved or rejected.

d) Each question gets reviewed by 2 NA, 2 Euro and 1 International - simple majority rules. If one marks the answer as wrong or two mark it as ambiguous, the question is tossed immediately.

e) Space for comments on the question (so users can actually know why the question was rejected).

f) The ability to make rudimentary spelling & grammar corrections.

g) Anyone reaching the 10th level (or higher) can apply to be a Moderator, provided they are English-first-language (or at least very proficient).

h) Moderators who fail to achieve 60% (or a different number to be determined as we go along) "agreement" with their fellow Moderators will lose the opportunity to continue Mod'ing for 2 weeks, then 1 month, then permanently.


Left lots of space for people to comment as they see fit

More mods would mean a lot of them will be sitting idle hoping to get a question evaluated by chance. We are currently 4, and most of the time there are only 3-4 questions waiting that did not get eveluated by someone else.

Also i would love to see a space for comments, it would make my job a lot easier since i would not have to post every rejection in the forum. But about spelling i feel the player should know what the mistake was and correct it himself. That way will have to pay attention to grammar. If they know we will accept the question and fix the spell errors then why would they bother double checking before they post?

Separetely from hunt i also a nice way of avoiding rush decisions, i would like to hear the opinion of other evaluators on that. I will ask them personally if they do not post here