are u a racist or agree with principles of nazis? that is the only way you could find humour in a situation where someone is offended by the sentiemnts of the word skinhead.

if u can find humour in your post i wouldnt mind betting your the only one on this forum that does find humour in it, to me it just shows your "true colours"

as for me c alling u pele, if u havent noticed i am slightly dyslexic, the first time i posted your name as pele was just an example of that, feel free to make fun of my dyslexia ad i will feel free to call u pele cos i know it pisses u off.

D00ml0rd is really do not see any point in continuing this conversation with you. Consider this post an act of politeness and good will. I have no personal interest in helping you get over your frustration, ghosts from the past or whatever it is that makes you so miserable and desperate to attack me personally. The core of the topic is that a skinhead has absolutely nothing to do with a nazi and I hope that you understand that. Due to my behavioral superiority I do not think that you can possibly ever "piss me off" as I pay no attention to your invectives. If you are willing to post any comments in any topics is would like to advice to be precise and have arguments. If you are willing to insult me or anybody on this forum please send a private message, it keep the forum nice and tidy.

Lads, it's nearly 2011. Let's keep certain things in the past shall we?

As for the whole "skinhead" description; it doesn't necessarily refer to ethnic groups or whatnot - Be open minded.


I'm a skinhead myself, yet I'm not involved in any ethnic groups and whatnot; It simply means that I don't have any hair - Bald/Cue ball or whatever you want to call it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead

Even Wiki knows that skinhead does not equal racist or neo-nazi...

Idézet: LydonB - 2010.12.19. 12:16:35

The term "skinhead" may not be associated with neo-nazis or whatever where you're from. Certainly, being bald isn't. But where I'm from, the only bald people who would describe themselves using that term are white supremacists.

Idézet: Manannan Mac Lir - 2010.12.19. 14:19:08

from the same page

"The white power and neo-Nazi skinhead subculture eventually spread to North America, Europe and other areas of the world. The mainstream media started using the term skinhead in reports of racist violence (regardless of whether the perpetrator was actually a skinhead); this has played a large role in skewing public perceptions about the subculture.[46] Three notable groups that formed in the 1980s and became associated with white power skinheads are White Aryan Resistance, Blood and Honour and Hammerskins."

Both myself and Viridel speciffically pointed out that not every skinhead is a white supremist, how ever the point is if someone is offended by the term for there own personal reasons then there was no reason for pele to attack him like he did for it.

Idézet: ImLittleJon - 2010.12.19. 16:29:07

as usual LittleJon summed it up perfectly:) He is spot on, guys with no hair call themselves bald, guys who shave there heads and call themselves skinheads wear it like a badge of honour and it means what it means which is exactly how Jon summarised it.

Idézet: petel87 - 2010.12.19. 11:53:42

to quote u AGAIN

"Well you are indeed entitled to your own opinion. In my humble one post (insert number here). is hillarious but I can understand that it may be hard to understand for someone at your age/social status due to its complexity. I can assure you that there is no ignorance in that post. Please do not use words of which meaning is not understood by yourself. Please respect other people by using their nicknames appropriately."

my post was a joke ive spent the last 8 hours laughing at it....

you seem to like dishing it out b ut for strange reason u dont like taking it.... u can fool some of the peope some of the time but not all of the people all of the time and u havent fooled me. I know why u made that post, you know why u made that post and it had nothing to do with jokes, as indeed nor did mine to you.

Now, not that i want to get in to psychoanalysis of you but i did note of all the things u seemed to take offense to in my posts the one thing u keep mentioning is that i refer to you as pele....any reason for that?

I can think of one and it has alot to do with why you think your original post to Tentacle was so funny.

Lads, stop living in the past and move on.

I don't want to play the role of the arse here, but you are creating an issue out of nothing. Some guy wants to call himself a "skinhead" then so be it; if he's a nazi or whatnot - if he likes doing that; good for him (as long as he doesn't post or say anything which is clearly offensive). Another guy wants to make a joke out of it; then let him and simply ignore it. Remember that everyone has the right of expression.

No offence, but you lot are trying to create an "issue" out of nothing.


In the end, is his username deemed offensive? No it isn't, otherwise his name would have already been changed by an admin.

Religion is offensive to Atheism and vice-versa.
Christianism is deemed offensive to Islam and vice-versa.
Democracy is deemed offensive to Communism and vice-versa.
Order is deemed offensive to Anarchism and vice-versa.
Science is offensive to religion and vice-versa.
Contraceptives are deemed offensive to Christianism.
So on and so forth...

Are we going to start issues on anything that might be deemed offensive to anybody? If so, let's just blow the whole world to smithereens and be done with all this BS. If not, take your pride and lock it in a box - the world ain't changing; stop acting like spoilt kids and grow up whatever your age might be.

I'm bald, and people call me a skinhead and a cueball and I don't give a damn about it; because they are right, my head is just skin.

"if he likes doing that; good for him (as long as he doesn't post or say anything which is clearly offensive)"

i think your missing the point Lydon, someone was CLEARLY offended by it and he posted about it, you might not be offended by it, i to, have a bald head that i shave as im half bald and i dont belive in covering it up but if someone called me a skinhead i would also be offended by that.

Tentacle has his reasons for finding the term offensve, what right do either of us have to force him to be silent? and what right does pele have for mocking the offence he feels?

Idézet: LydonB - 2010.12.19. 12:16:35

And that's what I said before. "Skinhead" may or may not be used and considered a derogatory term. The easiest parallel I can draw is "Uncle Tom". There is an obvious and legitimate reason why a character could be named that - however, a certain racial group would be very offended by the negative history that name brings up. It's not right or wrong - it's just history.

In most cases, a name is a name - it's the actions afterward that dictate the character of the person.

Idézet: LydonB - 2010.12.19. 17:51:45

Technically we are all skinheads since all humans have skin on our heads. A lot of us though are hairyheads since above that skin we also have hair.

is one of the admins going to do anything about petel post?

i dont know if hes just trying to be funny again but that is way out of order, he should be kicked from the game

and on to more pleasant things

i have now had first hand experince of the pigs cheating.

I have mailed admin and asked them to audit the logs leading up to me being hit by her co s what she done is impossible. I am no ones cow in this game...

FACTS

I had 7+ mins to go on low safty

I opened epic screen in another window to suicide from

I changed my gear to low level gear and back to high level gear numerous times leading up to the approx 7 mins to go mark so if i was being scryed every 10 seconds it would be impossible to know when i was going off safty as i was still safe

I randomly chose a time when i would go off safe by changing my shield to low level

i didnt even have enough time to click the other tab for epic, she hit me within 1 second of going unsafe at a random time

NO ONE is that good, unless they are cheating, to be able to anticpate a random time within 1 second. bearing in mind that if u do attack someone and they safe u have a delay before hitting again and even with a 10 secon d scry relic b eing able to target within 1 second is just off the hook

Pig is a cheat and i hope admin do a full review of the server logs and finnaly catch her out i nstead of protecting her and making excuses for her.

come on pig

come tell us how you are so good you can accuratly predict a random time within 1 second....

i dont care if u sit in front of dl 24 hours a day 7 days a week your not that good, 1 second, if that it was probably closer to a millisecond, i didnt even have enough time to click on another tab, actions that i was in control of not you

the only thing your good at is cheating.

and it was worth the 20k you got just to get a taste of what you have put so many other players thru since u started your cheat script

Illuvatar is exploiting some sort of bug, please fix it pronto!

Alan as well. Probably more players...

Knack as well since we are updating the list

Okay, I'll contact the admins about this case. Can someone write me a detailed PM with names and stuff in order to shorten the period we can deal with this problem?

Idézet: Valkyrie - 2010.12.20. 20:04:25

This wasn't an exploit, just a bug caused by the last patch, and the programmer already corrected it, thank you for the notice.

About MsPiggy. We took very seriously the complaints, and monitored and logged every action for the past 2 months. After careful examination and analyzation of this data, we decided to suspend this character temporarily. Further investigation will decide if this suspension will become permanent.