Frustration is understood. I had to pump in the 300 from my real stones cause i got tired waiting for the building to finish. It is actually what you said (giving burned stones, the quest, requirement for further building), also the only way for non paying players to dispose of their burned stones. I guess its biggest function is to slow down the access to dimension and epic gate monsters until more clan members can actuall use them (since they would hunt much more to fill the 300 from burned stones)

Piggy, are you familiar with the discharge soul well button, if you are a premium player? Its the only way to get quite a lot of se from real stones.

Quote: PerrinAybarra - 2010.08.02. 06:08:36

One word: thievery.

Quote: stekkos - 2010.08.02. 06:31:45

She wants the other direction - convert SE into real stones. Which is what the (English translation of the) description of the Energy Crystallizer implies it does.

Well about that, its really going to ruin the purpose of ancient stones. Its something you buy and therefore get the bonuses because you support the developers. If there was an option to convert se into real stones then why would anyone pay to get them?

no i don't want the crystalizer to give real stones for looted SE.. would indeed ruin it.. but let the building give BoAS from looted SE if you choose to do it so people who don't/can't buy real stones can at least build this building a little faster

I know it's a taboo to get free premium points (called ancient stones in this game) and I'm not asking for it
It's just odd the description mentions that possibility.
Thievery is indeed the solution to the problem of getting stones. If you have a clan with 20 people and each gets 10 thievery and does about 15 battles a day, you get 30 stones/day from battles alone. Only 20 days for a level 3 crystalliser, which is really all you need until you reach the quest that requires you to gain 6 stones by levelling up.

And yes, I am familiar with the discharge soulwell function although I've never used it as I'm not a premium player. Supporting the developers is a good thing, but I dislike having an advantage that others might not to be able to afford, so I play without using ancient stones. I'd prefer it if you'd pay for functions like add-removal and pet-naming without actual real benefits like more hunts and better equipment.

I really dont think that building a level 3 crystalizer is such a problem. A clan with over 15 members can manage it really quickly. By the time my clan was able to build it, I had over 70 stones to put in. Most of other members too. Quick and easy.

Quote: MsPiggy - 2010.08.05. 17:04:53

If you dislike advantages so much, you could leave some of the good cows for the rest of us to milk.

i totally agree with you i spend 80 burnt out antient stones because i needed anctient stones but all i got in return was nothing

The crystalliser only gives you AS if you have the auction house relic, otherwise you only get burnt ones.


The only ways of acquiring AS is:

1) Pay
2) Bag of ancient stones - Type: relic :The Energy Crystallizer gives real ancient stones, not burnt-out stones
3) Events or some sort.


As for draining the soul-well... It's a once per month thing. What so outrageous about it? It's pretty much a "free" quest reward.

when you kill an entity is there a chance you can find a random loot, or is it only after you have killed 15??

Quote: S10MATT - 2010.09.07. 19:31:11
You get SE and XP after each one, but you only get treasure after 15.

Okay the torture chamber has me completely confused. I drug somebody into it last night, at 23:30, and an hour into the new day, they were still there. Just when does a person get out of the chamber, if it is not at the roll over of the new day?
Also, I show that three different people have drug me into theirs, just today! How many chambers can you be in at one time?

by my observations people are released from torture chamber around 4 a.m. game time. You can be in as many torture chambers as the number of your lost duels while defending that day.

Thank you Dark22 for the answers!

Can anyone explain to me how the cost of the Tower of Power works?
In W4, we have built it to lvl 2 and used it for 2 days. We thought that, when the second day was over, the price to build it again would skyrocket. It didn't happen though. Price is only 20,000 now.
Yet, in W2, my clan has possessed it for 5 days and the cost is 260,000.

Someone in the clan presented the below formula as the cost for the ToP:

ToP = ((Current level +1)+(Days of Possession*10)+1)*5000

The formula matches the cost I see in W2.
Is the ToP in W4 free of additional cost per days of possession?

Cruel.

It tells in the descriptio that if i squeeze a pet with a gradulation, i get an essence of that type and an ammount depending on the level of the pet.

would anyone know how many pet levels equal one essence? like 10 pet levels per essence or so?

You get 1 essence, +1 for each 20 complete levels of the pet.
Pet level 1-19 = 1 essence.
Pet level 20-39 = 2 essences.
Pet level 40-59 = 3 essences.
etc ....