Idézet: Cruel01 - 2011.08.13. 14:59:01

Oh, I see. We are talking about the same but you call it "size of the squeezed pet", and I got used to just "random variation".

Anyway, my data is very limited. Yesterday I squeezed a pet level 41 to do a quest - and it gave me ~15.5k SE. According to the equation, this gives "Base SE" ~ 450. Is that in line with pet base level of 21?

Your figures are music to my ears
For a lvl 41 pet with a base lvl of 21, a 15,500 Squeeze represents a constant of 22.03, which is way above the 7-13 I have been finding. I will do more tests, but it seems the formula really is wrong.

P.S. I remembered I had done a 500 hunts database and went to check. Using the basic formula (Base SE * constant), the constants I had found (and it is also easy to figure out the Base SE on regular hunts) was:
Tiny: 5-7
Lesser:7-9
Normal:9-11
Greater: 13-17
Huge: 18-22
Gigantic: 30-33
That left me completely confused regarding the constants for the squeeze...lol
Well, as long as higher level pets pay more, I don't really care. As a matter of fact, I do, as I believe the game formulas should be disclosed. But that is a different story.

Cruel.

Idézet: Cruel01 - 2011.08.13. 16:20:56

Which one (formula) is wrong?

SE from squeeze = Base SE * (1+0.2*Squeeze level + 0.5*Pet level).
It seems 0.5*Pet level is too low.

Cruel.

Idézet: Cruel01 - 2011.08.13. 16:49:26

Which brings us back to my question - what is Base SE in the equation?

I have been under impression that this is SE from hunt when you meet normal creature of a given base level, without any modification from skills, buildings or artifacts. Now, my calculation show that for level 21 creature base SE is 450 (plus-minus random factor). Does this seem too much or too low? I don't remember my loot and skills around lvl20 to compare...

Now at level 43 I have an average hunt loot of aroung 500 (if substract skills bonuses).
From what I squeeze (untrained pets only) I can estimate "Base SE" as 430-490 (VERY roughly as I do not average nor collect all the figures). This seems very close...

Finally, base SE for lvl 21. is from a single trial, while data for 41-45 creatures is an average result. Maybe I was just very lucky when squeezing that trained pet? More info of squeezing trained pets would be nice to look at

As I said, I have squeezed and saved the date for 90 squeezes. All from pets with no training. And the results vary from a Base SE of 459 for a base lvl 65 pet and 857 for a lvl 63 pet. Using the constant methodology, these figures are equivalent to 7.06 and 13.60 respectively.

Using the given formula for squeezing, your pet had a Base SE of 463, which is 22.03*Base lvl. This is clearly out of the 7-13 range, which indicates the formula doesn't apply.
I will make more tests anyway.

As per the squeezed pets having size, I am confused. It seems I have squeezed pets slightly smaller or bigger than normal, but I definitely have never squeezed a Gigantic or Huge creature.

Cruel.

Aha, now I see what you mean. I am taking a break to think this over

I am really frustrated.
Finally got my +20% SD essence. Used it. Then used a Detect Traps essence to go do adventures. To my surprise, one essence erases the other, as it seems I can only have 1 active essence at a time.

!!&$%#%$!^@%#$!#&

THIS SORT OF THING SHOULD BE ADVERTISED IN CAPS IN THE ALCHEMY LAB.

I am really pissed.

Cruel.

Are you sure the SD essence time limit did not JUST expire? Although i am sure you would notice that if it was so simple...

Regardless of this issue, i would advice you to save all essences you get until you hit Alchemy lab level 50. Then you can use them to get PERMANENT bonuses like:

From now all your pets skill maximum increased by 10.
Pet training time is halved, it's SE cost is reduced by 25%.
Increasing abilities costs 1% less.

How can i Have full squeezing skill, +2 squeezing from medals. Yet spend 21300 training a pet, only to receive 18700 when squeezed at lvl21?

Hello!

How can I heal my pet?

Thanks!

go to the 'Pets' page.
select the pet(s) to be healed.
click the 'Heal pets' button.

You need to acquire the Heal Wounds skill first. It requires Learning 9.

Cruel.

Is ice worm a good pet or should release pet? sorry if come off as noob question just started level 5

It doesn't matter which pet you use. Just use them. (pet's base level matters, higher is better, base level is fix until you can increase it from AA points)
And welcome in the game, feel free to ask.

All pets are equally good on their respective level. It's fine to start with a level 5 pet, but you will soon need to squeeze it, since the pet's HP is linked to its base level. You will need to constantly switch pets for many levels still. Eventually, it will start to be worth to just increase their base level, but you are far from that. Good luck with your new character

Edit: Tallia beat me to it

Okay thank for the tip

The pet base level 6 and Absorption 2 is that good?

sorry if spam did not see my post before

Idézet: FrozenZen - 2015.11.05. 14:29:22

As you progress the pets you capture will have a higher level and higher absorption. This is what Cruel was referring to when he said you will continue to squeeze pets to recapture further ones.