Expertly explained, that's exactly what we are saying!
Thank you for summarizing it.
Posts - DoomlordFos
Date: Yesterday, 20:32:22
Date: Yesterday, 16:04:08
The " you can't get more soul energy from a won duel than you have on your character" applies to the soul energy you win at the end of the duel ( doesn't care about soul energy drain from items) and it's absolute.
If the target doesn't have soul energy you get the fix amount of 15 soul energy per XP point ( creative affinity at level 50 increases this to 30 points, energy harness increases it even further but I don't know the value)... If have less than the fixed amount of soul energy you will only get a reward equal to what you are carrying ( if you have zero, you get zero)... you can easily try it by doing one duel with zero soul energy on your character.
If the target has soul energy on him you can steal part of it in duels in two ways:
1- By having equipments/spells wit the drain soul energy effect. Each time you hit the opponent you drain a percentage of the damage done as soul energy. ( If you have 15%drain soul and hit him for 100 damage, you'll get 15 SE). There are items and AA skills that protect against drain soul
2- by winning the duel you'll get part of the unprotected (transcendal projection skill protects part of the soul energy)... Not sure of the percentage you get here, read it in the wiki it's 10%, creative affinity increases this as do some items... So for example if you were carrying your 100000 SE and lost a duel your oponente would get 20000 ( assuming 50 creative affinity), but if was only carrying 1000 he would only get 1000
Note 1 - subplasma victories always give a fixed amount of soul energy
Note 2- Clan championship, pit, gods event and the search event battles always give you full reward even if you don't carry soul energy... And they are way more efficient ways to earn soul energy than dueling people that don't have soul energy
If the target doesn't have soul energy you get the fix amount of 15 soul energy per XP point ( creative affinity at level 50 increases this to 30 points, energy harness increases it even further but I don't know the value)... If have less than the fixed amount of soul energy you will only get a reward equal to what you are carrying ( if you have zero, you get zero)... you can easily try it by doing one duel with zero soul energy on your character.
If the target has soul energy on him you can steal part of it in duels in two ways:
1- By having equipments/spells wit the drain soul energy effect. Each time you hit the opponent you drain a percentage of the damage done as soul energy. ( If you have 15%drain soul and hit him for 100 damage, you'll get 15 SE). There are items and AA skills that protect against drain soul
2- by winning the duel you'll get part of the unprotected (transcendal projection skill protects part of the soul energy)... Not sure of the percentage you get here, read it in the wiki it's 10%, creative affinity increases this as do some items... So for example if you were carrying your 100000 SE and lost a duel your oponente would get 20000 ( assuming 50 creative affinity), but if was only carrying 1000 he would only get 1000
Note 1 - subplasma victories always give a fixed amount of soul energy
Note 2- Clan championship, pit, gods event and the search event battles always give you full reward even if you don't carry soul energy... And they are way more efficient ways to earn soul energy than dueling people that don't have soul energy
Date: 2023.11.24. 00:12:36
That is correct if you have a scarab and are targeted of a subplasma attack it will protect you from the torture chamber.
Date: 2023.11.23. 23:49:26
The effect that is written in scarab of death only takes effect on normal duels... If the attack is made with subplasma the scarab effect is different, it simply prevents the target from being dragged to the torture chamber ( and since they aren't dragged, the subplasma attacker won't lose soul energy)
As you said if you attack someone that has the scarab and drag them to torture chamber while you aren't carrying soul energy, you won't lose anything... The effect still triggers and it will steal all your energy, that is zero... So you are safe
... Just a small problem, if you don't have soul energy on your character you won't win soul energy on a victorious duel , so no point attacking ( you get XP and 0 SE, not fun). So basically dueling in those conditions will hurt your character.
This is why I say it will kill PvP in lower levels... After level 60 there is a AA skill that makes the scarab way less efficient ( only 10% of the effect) so it isn't so bad
Ps: by the way I don't consider a problem the scarab bing available for all, I was simply pointing out it could have unforseen consequences.
As you said if you attack someone that has the scarab and drag them to torture chamber while you aren't carrying soul energy, you won't lose anything... The effect still triggers and it will steal all your energy, that is zero... So you are safe
... Just a small problem, if you don't have soul energy on your character you won't win soul energy on a victorious duel , so no point attacking ( you get XP and 0 SE, not fun). So basically dueling in those conditions will hurt your character.This is why I say it will kill PvP in lower levels... After level 60 there is a AA skill that makes the scarab way less efficient ( only 10% of the effect) so it isn't so bad
Ps: by the way I don't consider a problem the scarab bing available for all, I was simply pointing out it could have unforseen consequences.
Date: 2023.11.23. 22:31:32
The high levels stoping to attack lower levels won't kill pvp at all... Now a low level attacking someone around their level, winning the battle but losing a lot of soul energy to the scarab ( if the clan has the torture chamber), that may kill PvP
Date: 2023.11.23. 19:46:13
Well, can't talk from Manunkind, only for myself.
My torture chamber is consistently empty, may have one or two people in from time to time, but most of the time it's empty, despite that Fos is turning out alright.
There is something much more powerful when building a character then torture chamber, duels and all that- Efficient soul energy spending.
In short get those ability cost reductions to 95% as soon as possible... It's the difference between using 33M SE to buy 101 points of constitution(at 95% reduction) or buy 16 points of constitution (at 69% reduction).
I'm not gonna tell you how to play your game, to each his own, but if I was in your shoes ( and let's be fair I've been in your shoes some years ago) I wouldn't worry so much about other people's game... I would simply focus on improving my character, getting my hands in as many relic coupons and emerald boxes as possible ( emerald boxes are game changers!), improve any skill that improves soul energy gains, improve skills that reduce skill/ability cost, use those hard earned ancient stones in things that give permanent bonuses ( like emerald boxes, really loved them), get your hands in relics that increase AA points gain (level 60+)... I would recommend this for one reason alone, that was exactly what I did, and it turned out all right
My torture chamber is consistently empty, may have one or two people in from time to time, but most of the time it's empty, despite that Fos is turning out alright.
There is something much more powerful when building a character then torture chamber, duels and all that- Efficient soul energy spending.
In short get those ability cost reductions to 95% as soon as possible... It's the difference between using 33M SE to buy 101 points of constitution(at 95% reduction) or buy 16 points of constitution (at 69% reduction).
I'm not gonna tell you how to play your game, to each his own, but if I was in your shoes ( and let's be fair I've been in your shoes some years ago) I wouldn't worry so much about other people's game... I would simply focus on improving my character, getting my hands in as many relic coupons and emerald boxes as possible ( emerald boxes are game changers!), improve any skill that improves soul energy gains, improve skills that reduce skill/ability cost, use those hard earned ancient stones in things that give permanent bonuses ( like emerald boxes, really loved them), get your hands in relics that increase AA points gain (level 60+)... I would recommend this for one reason alone, that was exactly what I did, and it turned out all right
Date: 2023.11.23. 12:11:00
Like I said, there are advantages and disadvantages ... Just hope the low levels won't be too annoyed when they win duels against opponent in their duel range .
On my part it won't affect me... I hardly duel at all.
.On my part it won't affect me... I hardly duel at all.
Date: 2023.11.21. 23:36:34
For higher levels the addition of scarab of death to everyone will have little effect, the reason for this is that nearly everyone in our duel range already has the relic, it will only stop the torture chamber invitation with subplasma attacks... and quite frankly the lose of that soul energy is negligible.
Now on the lower levels ( until level 60) it would be a massacre, every time you get attacked and dragged to a torture chamber you would get soul energy equal to 500x the level of the attacker, without any sort of reduction. This would in fact kill the PvP part of the game on those levels, and sort of kill the "absorve as much soul energy as you can" theme of the game( if one is interested in the Legend storytelling), making players afraid to carry soul energy when duelling, because they would simply lose it to the relic . After level 60, the addition of AA abilities would mitigate this effect, but still.
Is it wort it, maybe yes, maybe no! There are pros and cons in both situations. One thing i can tell you getting that relic on my early days was a real sense of achievement, had to trade resources to get the ducats, had to restrain myself from spending them, had to wait for the right opportunity, it taunted me several times, but nearly one year after starting the game i finally got it... And it was sweet... Kind of get this feeling with every hard to get relic
Now on the lower levels ( until level 60) it would be a massacre, every time you get attacked and dragged to a torture chamber you would get soul energy equal to 500x the level of the attacker, without any sort of reduction. This would in fact kill the PvP part of the game on those levels, and sort of kill the "absorve as much soul energy as you can" theme of the game( if one is interested in the Legend storytelling), making players afraid to carry soul energy when duelling, because they would simply lose it to the relic . After level 60, the addition of AA abilities would mitigate this effect, but still.
Is it wort it, maybe yes, maybe no! There are pros and cons in both situations. One thing i can tell you getting that relic on my early days was a real sense of achievement, had to trade resources to get the ducats, had to restrain myself from spending them, had to wait for the right opportunity, it taunted me several times, but nearly one year after starting the game i finally got it... And it was sweet... Kind of get this feeling with every hard to get relic
Date: 2023.11.20. 18:42:58
Well, I can't talk for anyone except for me... but it has happen to me on several occasions with embarrassing results, like attacking the toughest Crystal clan member instead of the weakest when i have -50% penalty to my abilities, or attacking the wrong minion team in the minion arena. This sort of things happen when you are playing on your cell phone... Hell, even on computer it has happened when i use " right click- > open new page" while attacking several people, just to get one or two messages saying that the person can't be attacked because they were attacked in the last 5 minutes. It's strange but this sort of things happen from time to time, after all we are all humans and humans make mistakes
Date: 2023.11.17. 17:15:50
Did some tests with a friend some time ago, the torture chamber gives you a little less than 1% of the target's soul energy gain for the day.
Help -> Help request
Date: 2023.10.31. 22:12:23
By the way, if you go to the pet page you can use the pet food directly by clicking the symbol that looks like a piece of meat ( your level does not matter there)
Help -> Help request
Date: 2023.10.31. 21:50:40
click your character's picture, scroll down , right before the pets there will be a " invisibility" button, just click it.
( There is one requirement, if you attacked anyone in the last 12 hours it won't work.) Ok, now your invisible, to cancel it just wait 24 hours and go to the same place you went to become invisible.
( There is one requirement, if you attacked anyone in the last 12 hours it won't work.) Ok, now your invisible, to cancel it just wait 24 hours and go to the same place you went to become invisible.
Clans -> Ruby clans
Date: 2023.09.26. 13:12:38
Manunkind, The Master Headhunter.
If you ever decide to change profession, there is business for you in the talent seeking activity .
If you ever decide to change profession, there is business for you in the talent seeking activity
.Date: 2023.09.24. 17:54:01
https://prnt.sc/BT-o6UVG1Era
This is a picture of where you need to click
I put a red box next to the buttons you need to click
1st clan
2nd create clan
If for some reason your character is in the W4 competition you first need to leave the catacombs.
If this doesn't work, click the help button, it will send you to support, they can see if you have some strange bug. ( note they only work from monday to friday)
Hope this helps
This is a picture of where you need to click
I put a red box next to the buttons you need to click
1st clan
2nd create clan
If for some reason your character is in the W4 competition you first need to leave the catacombs.
If this doesn't work, click the help button, it will send you to support, they can see if you have some strange bug. ( note they only work from monday to friday)
Hope this helps
Quiz -> Quiz errors
Date: 2023.08.16. 16:24:29
When you submit the question they are evaluated, some of mine have been rejected because they had more than one correct answer or because the question was already part of the data base. The problem is when things change after the question has already been evaluated... I'm guessing they don't check the thousands of questions in their database too see if they are still relevant at current date. In some sensitive cases as the Republic of North Macedonia/ Greece dispute, it may not be a pleasant to see the name of the country incorrectly written but they don't do it to hurt anyone.
My advice talk directly with support, expose the situation and ask if they can take a look att he questions' database and change Macedonia to Republic of North Macedonia in the appropriate questions.
My advice talk directly with support, expose the situation and ask if they can take a look att he questions' database and change Macedonia to Republic of North Macedonia in the appropriate questions.
Date: 2023.06.26. 18:54:00
I don't know why the scarab has that effect on subplasma attacks, as you said it does not appear in the description. I would ask support, maybe they forgot to put it in description...
About attacking lower level player, it must come down to personal preferences. Each person as a different play style, some attack higher levels, others lower levels. There are those that prefer to level up fast and mostly hunt and fights duels that give the most experience, and there are other players that chose to remain somewhat low level, participating in championships and all that... I'm not in other peoples minds so i don't know what their motives are.
On my part, I usually ignore active players, some times have one or two battles per day against players that left the game but accumulate soul energy thanks to all the attacks they suffer from the crystal horde and my torture chamber is usually just gathering dust. I enjoy the clan championship battles, exploring the pit, and completing the events that pop up from time to time... Don't have much sympathy for crystal horde so I target them very often... Nut this is just my play-style, other people have other play-styles... You can ask them why they do it... they may or may not respond. You can try the diplomatic route, sometimes it works ( super effective against me
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About attacking lower level player, it must come down to personal preferences. Each person as a different play style, some attack higher levels, others lower levels. There are those that prefer to level up fast and mostly hunt and fights duels that give the most experience, and there are other players that chose to remain somewhat low level, participating in championships and all that... I'm not in other peoples minds so i don't know what their motives are.
On my part, I usually ignore active players, some times have one or two battles per day against players that left the game but accumulate soul energy thanks to all the attacks they suffer from the crystal horde and my torture chamber is usually just gathering dust. I enjoy the clan championship battles, exploring the pit, and completing the events that pop up from time to time... Don't have much sympathy for crystal horde so I target them very often... Nut this is just my play-style, other people have other play-styles... You can ask them why they do it... they may or may not respond. You can try the diplomatic route, sometimes it works ( super effective against me
)Date: 2023.06.26. 17:59:06
About the scarab of death and its effect when a a player using subplasma attacks to drag you to torture chamber I'll just leave these here.
Quote: Miklos - 2021.07.08. 15:43:51
If Miklos doesn't have this right, I don't know who will.
About it being expensive in the ducats department... It is,specially in the beginning, your best option at lower levels ( if you really want the relic... I would focus on other things like relic coupons ) is to trade temple crystals for golden ducats ( or relic shards if you get them from the wheel of fortune)
As of it not being available to players less than level 25 (?), sorry no advice!
Quote: Miklos - 2021.07.08. 15:43:51
When a player uses subplasma to attack you, you do not lose any soul energy, nor you suffer any other disadvantage. If you still dislike the mostly role-player concept of torture chamber, there is an item called Scarab of Death, which you can win on the auction and can protect you from this.
If Miklos doesn't have this right, I don't know who will.
About it being expensive in the ducats department... It is,specially in the beginning, your best option at lower levels ( if you really want the relic... I would focus on other things like relic coupons
) is to trade temple crystals for golden ducats ( or relic shards if you get them from the wheel of fortune)As of it not being available to players less than level 25 (?), sorry no advice!
Date: 2023.06.26. 14:33:02
What you all said about the torture chamber giving more soul energy from higher level characters is correct. The thing is higher level, active character usually are protected by the scarab of death, meaning they can't be dragged to torture chamber with subplasma attacks.
Date: 2023.05.19. 12:12:29
Those players play the game... They just do it in a diferent way than most. Those are galetkis that couldn't care less about clan disputes, about horde wars, they don't care about xenomorphic or dragon invasions... They are eremites, the kind of martial arts masters that live in seclusion, practicing their art, coming out of their den to test their skills against other masters in friendly competitions. Luckily they are mostly pacifists! Could you imagine the horror if they decided to hunt for soul energy?
Ok story apart I'm neutral about the use or not of the clan buildings in championship for the most part... One of those buildings' bonuses seems very strange to be used... I mean training grounds having effect, sounds good, you train more and with better technics, so you become more skilled in attack, great. Necro focus and its IQ bonus, no comments... But ramparts having effect seems, strange... I mean what are you doing? Dragging your clan's fortress to the championship's place?
Ok story apart I'm neutral about the use or not of the clan buildings in championship for the most part... One of those buildings' bonuses seems very strange to be used... I mean training grounds having effect, sounds good, you train more and with better technics, so you become more skilled in attack, great. Necro focus and its IQ bonus, no comments... But ramparts having effect seems, strange... I mean what are you doing? Dragging your clan's fortress to the championship's place?
Date: 2023.05.10. 19:14:24
Just a suggestion about this issue. You guys have things more or less lined up about what should be done about subplasma... Perhaps it is time to take things directly to support ( in game help button) they are usually very fast to look at the messages and provide some kind of answer.