Idézet: nhsos - 2025.03.21. 13:58:33

Not sure I got this right, but I think you are asking for clarification.
The ability we are talking about is Lone Hero

"Lone hero:
Your opponent's support has only 25%/15%/5% (depending on AA level) effect when duelling with you (only when not in war).
Max. level: 3
Cost: 20"

This works like this. Let's say you have +100 to your abilities from your clan support and I decide to attack you, since I have the level 3 of lone hero, the support from your clan will only be +5 to your abilities (5%) for the duration of our duel.

( Who said I was saying that the first to be trained AA skill would be Lone Hero? Khine (my character) doesn't have it. But if she was interested in attacking others, the skill would be close to free now for her.

Many things are situational. 20 AA points may seem a lot at low levels.. but eventually they are close to nothing. Same thing with Curse of Scarab. If your foe doesn't have it, obviously the skill doesn't give anything.. but you would sure remember the AA skill if they did..

The game has barely started at level 60... )

no khine i didnt ask for clarification i know the AA ability.what said is that i didnt understand that you said if the attacker had this ability at max.without this AA abily the clan support give a great advantage to the defender but even with this ability still the defender will get some increase on his abilities as you said.it migh be critical it might be not.that depends on th defender abilitues.bottom line is that clan support can help (some players more some less) on defending in normal range.

" Who said I was saying that the first to be trained AA skill would be Lone Hero? Khine (my character) doesn't have it. But if she was interested in attacking others, the skill would be close to free now for her." true but check your lvl.someone that is lets say lvl70 will give priority to more usefull abilities like the ones i said.eventually might choose this ability too but by that time it will be more than 130 lvlrember than in low lvl you gain AA not so fast(although this chance as you lvl up)

"This works like this. Let's say you have +100 to your abilities from your clan support and I decide to attack you, since I have the level 3 of lone hero, the support from your clan will only be +5 to your abilities (5%) for the duration of our duel."

true but since we talk about normal range duels you are partly mistaken.a player with 100 on his abilities is between lvl25 and lvl30.at this lvl players dont have acces to AA abilities so the attacked will not have the AA ability and the 5 plus on the defender could make a difference.i understand thta as you lvl up the clan support might not be so usefull(although a boost of 50% will always be usefull) i think until lvl100 canmake a difference

You are correct, you only need to start worrying with the AA ability once you hit level 51 or 52 ( because level 60 can attack you at that level)... My point is simple use support if you need it, specially bellow level 50, but don't rely too much on it, it's a useful tool while it lasts, but will be rendered obsolete sooner or later (or not, after all Khine still doesn't have it ). The most important part is having fun, this is a game, building characters is fun ( at least for me) and there is a lot of content to enjoy

"The most important part is having fun"....as long as some "players" are not obsessed to ruin the fun for you.anyway since most of the clansmate have already left the game (and soon probably the ones that we remaning will leave) i think clan support to work sucessfully you need at least one high lvl player on your team.otherwise too many players are needed to support one.i could be wrong,have neednt to support someone by now since they is no need yet and it is pointless to use when my clansmates or me are getting hit by a lvl200 and above.

still posting complaints, eh? who's obsessed?

( You don't need support to defend from subplasma. They are not supposed to be countered. That's why they don't inflict anything on the defender. Move on, or not. Your choice. )

if oyu have taken the time to read the post you would have seen that all the post are about the use of clan support.i will not speak about your Iq but next timebetter read what is posted before you try to be play the smart one

khine either way we already establish the clan support is useless against subplasma attacks with very high lvl difference

manukind either you dont knwo how to read or you really dont understand what you read.propably the second one because you really had a bad time to understand what dialy means.ppl are talking about the clan support

how many times on this page have you all mentioned getting hit by someone much higher level, still?

( It is clear that there is no point for me to try it further. You fellows know everything and much better than any veteran player or even than the game developers themselves.

Now you can keep talking about how unfair subplasma is and how you don't want to keep playing the game because of how unfair it is and all the psychological damage that it delivers (as it has zero impact in the game stats).

Beholder even added a new relic because of this ranting/baby crying. But it is still not enough apparently. Maybe you are too used to crying until the world magically turns into what you want. You can keep crying a whole river for all I care. The pink unicorns that give flowers to each other is further down the road.

I would love if you were to give ideas to make the game better. (Something that is not subplasma). Something that could be added , not modifying something already existing to make your own world better. Subplasma was added for a reason even if you don't want to/can't see it.

Some lowering on that quickness to insult others would not hurt. Some reading and some proper grammar and punctuation would be appreciated too.

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when you talk about subplasma attack you do have to mention the attack form a higher lvl.this is not a brainer manukind.maybe you should start thinking before you speak next time.try it for once

khine who told you that we havent made any suggestion for new things?

You probably made suggestions through support, not in the forum...and that's not visible, so people make assumptions . Btw nothing wrong about making suggestions through support, it's the most efficient way to do it )

last time i think it was greekman that make a suggestion to the support and post it here on the forum to see what the other payers think and maybe improve
the suggestion.guess who jumped on him for making the suggestion for a new chhampionship.

manukind since you and your buddy continue hitting low lvls then they have the right to complain and mention it

khine i have been playing torn for almost 4 years know.i have been hit and i have hit many players but the lvl of stupidity that some players have here i havent seen it there.and in torn you can loose money and life and still y0u dont see a lvl100 to hit a lvl20 except maybe sometimes on wars between the clans.so dont speak about unicorns and the rest better talk about why some players here are so obsessed with those kind of duels which they dont gain anything.