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Re: New event: Horde Wars
101. post - 2013.11.05. 17:19:13
We did an update at midnight, and there was another when the event ended.
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102. post - 2013.11.05. 19:01:52
I play w/o AS (i can't afford them right now) So I did not get enough horde trophies to buy relics (I hope somehow in the future can collect some). I didn't start the event on day 1. I didn't switch to 30pp in time too.
But I have to say this was a very good event. I liked it. I lost many more duels i normally would. But I was able to finish a ton of quests even with those losses (as criticals and stunning counts in losses too)
So for a low level free-rider's opinion was this.

I think with a little more co-oping with top players' demands is necessarry to make this game alive for the next few years (I hope it will be!)

I think the horde-chat is a much needed feature because without communication it was a complete mess and resulted a lowly result of 3rd for us diamonds. (in the clan there are other horde's followers, making harder to organize)
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103. post - 2013.11.05. 22:02:12 (Reply to post #100 of Cruel01.)
I don't know, i don't following always the hungarian servers.
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104. post - 2013.11.06. 04:43:58
the countdown timer is great. i'd love to see it for every event. thanks!
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Re: New event: Horde Wars
105. post - 2013.11.06. 14:18:00
Hi,

I fear the end-result (of the map) is incorrect!
The end-result has been frozen upon midnight; and not at 14h00 this afternoon.

Thanks,
Elvenwind (W3)

Note: 14h37 : Results are updated.


Note for Sapphire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTivVclQQ0
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Re: New event: Horde Wars
106. post - 2013.11.06. 15:14:52
Well, I see no real reason to continue playing. I came in 3rd in attacks on W3. I never lost a battle. I used over 140 healing potions.
I bought the war packs every day. I used almost all my duel potions. And I got a 2nd place medal. To me the whole concept of playing
with other members of a Horde was meaningless. Who are these players? What are they doing? What is their plan for playing? With
no way to coordinate attacks then what is the point? I'm sorry, but for me this was a big time flop with no redeeming features.
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107. post - 2013.11.06. 15:38:56
Oryu,

It was possible to coordinate attacks, as for sapphire Elvenwind with friends tried and succeed in coordinating attacks across all servers. We started 3 days after start of event when Sapphire were last among hordes.
True is it was easier for sapphire as this horde is less favourite among players. So it is easier to manage and coordinate attacks of less number of players.
Bigger problem is some players has account on various worlds belonging to various hordes. They simply cannot win with all accounts.
Agree that all top10 players should get diamond medal, not only 1st.

Anyway do you really think it is big difference if you will have +5 for half year or +8 ? I agree with Sbart that main prize for event were horde relics and main part of them were only for AS as part of War packs. I am paying member, but I think this event was already "too much" favourable for paying members. But if in future relics obtainable from horde relics remain same and no new will be added then also non-premium players will be able to get same relics as paying members and paying ones will only have more relic cupons. If every each Horde war event new relics will be introduced, gap between paying and free players can be too big.

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108. post - 2013.11.06. 15:39:41 (Reply to post #106 of Oryu.)
Hi Oryu,

I can understand your frustration; though I stayed up till after midnight; made an analyse of the situation and coordinated who was asked to attack where. As a matter a fact it was not easy to communicate over the worlds; but via this forum (private messages) I could arrange a lot. At the end all players together made the difference (not me); so special thx for everyone involved into our communication.
Now I have to admit, that I'm total-loss and tired (due to having also a full-time job in the day); but it seemed to make a difference.

Anyway, after the merge this problem should be tackled I suppose.

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E.
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109. post - 2013.11.06. 15:40:51 (Reply to post #106 of Oryu.)
True! I have same feelings. And not only about myself. But for others too.
Quite unfair to give diamond medal only to top-1 player (I mean most victories and most potions drunk). At least it should be top-3.
And it was bad idea to combine all English worlds on one map. What was the reason for that?
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Re: New event: Horde Wars
110. post - 2013.11.06. 15:54:21
W can change things based on players feedback for the next event. Suggestions so far:

1.) Special forum for horde and/or
2.) Your clan's horde counts in war, not yours (so clans with horde-changed members can still work together)
3.) Reduce price of war pack and increase its value (lesser duel potion -> duel potion)
4.) Increase amount of treasure dropped from targets
5.) Diamond medal for all top10 not only for top1
6.) Increase effect of medals
7.) Targets clones of other players, not yours

If you have further suggestions based on this event's experience, please post them.
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111. post - 2013.11.06. 16:03:50 (Reply to post #110 of Miklos.)
My God Miklos! Those are beautiful changes!!!
Congrats on listening to players' feedback and trying to make it a better event. I think they address most of our comments here. Option 2 (probably from Hungary) is simply genius imo.

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Re: New event: Horde Wars
112. post - 2013.11.06. 16:27:06
Hi
Thanks to those who posted replies to me. I could tell that there was some attempt being made to coordinate in other Hordes.
I was never contacted in any attempt with Emerald though. I have very little time to actually spend online. Seeing as how all
my rivals in other Hordes received the +8 medal, yes, the extra +3 was and is important to me.

I agree that if those changes were made it would be a more exciting event.

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113. post - 2013.11.06. 16:36:00 (Reply to post #110 of Miklos.)
Hi Miklos,

indeed quit good input.
Except for point 7. : I did have positive comment from our weaker (builder) members; that for once they can participate in an event... that counts too, no?
I can imagine in the other events that those ppl are quit frustrated (and not participating).

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114. post - 2013.11.06. 16:59:30
E,
Builders incapacity to participate in events has been debated in the past. Miklos' opinion on the matter (and I agree with it 100%) is that all players should have enough power to fight a couple of fights with lower level players at least. If you are losing all fights to clones that are 5-10 levels below you, then there is something wrong. In other words, "zombie builders" are not welcome!

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115. post - 2013.11.06. 17:16:16 (Reply to post #114 of Cruel01.)
Hi Cruel,

I suppose you're right. I cannot tell or confirm the wins/losses for a builder; I'm not a builder... I only try to post in this topic the reactions I got from my fellow clan-mates; that's all.
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116. post - 2013.11.06. 17:38:09
700 victories, Horde was second......Why did I only receive a Platinum (+5) medal?
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117. post - 2013.11.07. 04:13:08
Wombat reporting:

Had a pretty uneventful three weeks.

Kills : 1258 (top 10 W3)
Potions : 314 (top 10 W3)

Clan position : 3rd

Result: 153 horde trophies and Diamond Medal (How the heck do I spend 3 HTs???)

AS spent.... about 60

SE spent... A Damn lot LOL (healies and stats )

Went from L104 to L106.

General comments:

Started with over 280 DPs and 700 APs plus 30+ duel and lesser duel potions and 25 hunters loots. I ran out of DPs (a ToD task completed for first time EVER!!) yesterday before close of event, by which time I'd done 70 winning duels for the day. As Elvenwind can attest, I come out of the corner in these events swinging like a banshee to get into top 10 and stay there.

I started on the take on all comers level (15 DPs a day) but after a while switched to the more difficult level as I saw my DPs dwindle. Now, because I know that there are guys stronger than me I expect to lose the odd fight and this happened... once or twice two times in a row. It also meant I had to pay careful attention to my health level as it appeared that when I dropped below 15% I lost the fight..... which when you have over 8K in HPs is a shock (Only those stronger than me who I avoid usually do that amount of damage to this little wombat). It also was caused by just hitting the fight button without thinking *sigh*, but hey, I's a wombat.

I also missed a couple of days, but that was a help in getting a supply of DPs up.

Tactics:

At the start, I received a message from Stistka suggesting that all Diamond horde members attack the middle rows, which I duly did until it became obvious that not all was doing to plan. I decided to just click on every square and see how Diamond was standing on that square and if less than 1% behind current leader, have at that square. If we were ahead by less than 1%, ditto. That gave me the purpose and aim. As we slipped to 4th I had my doubts and then.... well we crawled our way back.

Opponents:

The thing I liked about this was that we didn't select the opponent. It was a random generation that was based on us. To all those guys who have specialised in doing magic damage and were getting it back.. WELCOME TO MY WORLD !!!!!!! My character is a balanced character. Yes, my pets took a bashing, but never to the extent that they were killed..... three or six MBed Heal did the trick. Usually I got through at least 7 opponents before I had to heal myself and because I have a lowish constitution 3 L100 healies did the trick. Heck, I was even able to complete the ToD Magic regen task. So yes, the opponents were stronger than normal, but since I have no stand out ability the damage was not usually mind bogglingly astounding. To be honest I was more surprised a few times when I lost or won by less than 1000 damage. THAT (to me) means the system worked.

Conclusion:

Leaves the old map event in the stone age. Next time can only be better if what Miklos has said is enacted. That the opponents reflect on your character is brilliant. Now we know what to maybe expect, planning will be easier.

Finally, when the worlds do unite I expect there to be a line of guys wanting to take the wombat's pelt. Many have tried... but I still shove my plated backside in their faces as I march ever forward
The ONLY Wombat on W3
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Re: New event: Horde Wars
118. post - 2014.05.01. 22:07:49
Miklós,

You mentioned the following event would not take the current horde into consideration. Instead, it would consider the clan horde. Is this going to happen? The announcement makes no mention to it.

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119. post - 2014.05.04. 22:13:32
Okay, looks like we make some changes, based on previous request by players:

- Your horde will be determined by the horde of your clan, not yours (this has importance if your horde differs from that of your clan).

- If you are using 30 DP settings, sometimes you were getting a stronger opponent. Now we change this, you are not getting an enhanced clone of yours (which was difficult to defeat for most), just a random player's clone from attack distance.

- We are adding new rewards for horde trophies:
for 100 horde trophy: Horde fetish. lvl 150 minion fetish, ability: +1 critical spell per 10 levels.
for 80 horde trophy: Quiz orb. You get the +10% SE for hunts if your quiz answer was incorrect or you did not answer (condition will be premium membership and possibly some quiz medals or answered quiz questions)

Package of war: price reduced from 10 to 7 ancient stones (and we remove healing potion from it).

To get the last medal you now need only 900 victories instead of 1100.

Also expect that number of wins will have increasing weight towards the end of the event.



Please note that you can already collect event points by hunting.
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120. post - 2014.05.06. 01:12:00 (Reply to post #119 of Miklos.)
Quote: Miklos - 2014.05.04. 22:13:32

- We are adding new rewards for horde trophies:
for 100 horde trophy: Horde fetish. lvl 150 minion fetish, ability: +1 critical spell per 10 levels.
for 80 horde trophy: Quiz orb. You get the +10% SE for hunts if your quiz answer was incorrect or you did not answer (condition will be premium membership and possibly some quiz medals or answered quiz questions)

Don't forget to make the Quiz orb give from 10% to 22% according to the number of Quiz Medals. it would be quite useless if it gave 10% flat

Quote: Miklos - 2014.05.04. 22:13:32

Also expect that number of wins will have increasing weight towards the end of the event.

Is the event starting today? How does this increased weight work?

Thanks,
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