Does the relic that gives +10% SE in duels stack with +100% from Creative Affinity, giving its holder +110%?

Cruel.

Yes it does. And that goes for every relic/item that gives bonus se from duels. It adds up

Quote: stekkos - 2010.12.18. 06:17:26

What is the order of "addition" between Affinity, Energy Harness and Relics?

There is a big difference if you get Harness first, then Affinity on top of that, with the Relic at the end
vs.
Relic, then Affinity, then Harness

If skills are max'd, the relic is +10%, and the loser has no (available) SE, the first option gives (let's say) 500 from EnHarness +100% Affinity = 1000 + 10% Relic = 1100
the 2nd option under the same parameters would give 0 +10% Relic = 0 + 100% Affinity = 0 + 500 from EnHarness = 500

So I guess the critical point is when does Affinity come into play?

I have the exact same doubt.
I am thinking if it is worth to invest on EH and knowing if it comes before or after Afinity makes a HUGE difference.
Does anyone know the answer for this?

Cruel.

http://doomlord.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_harness

(EH * opponents level * 0.2)*bonus from CA = threshold for EH gain
* If you have EH 50, opponent level 60, CA 50
* (50*60*0.2)*2 = 1200 SE minimum

First of all I should note that EH isn't boosted by items unless you have access to the energy master AAC.

If you had energy master 2 and a bloodsucker relic, you would get 10% bonus to your SE. The key thing is there is no addition in the calculation, meaning it makes no difference as to what order they come in. Therefore +10% = *1.1 (this makes sense to me, but I haven't actually tested it):
((50*60)*0.2)*2)*1.1
is the same as
50*60*0.2*2*1.1
So you get 1200 * 1.1 = 1320

I have tested the formula before and it's always come out right (though like I said, not tested it with bonus's from relics).

Awesome!
Thank you very much!
I will invest on it then

Was surprised by the limt on CA though. Specially because the description of the Skill doesn't mention anything (and it definitely should!!)

Cruel.

Well, I just got the Bloodsucker and it doesn't stack.
So, even with the item, the minimum is still EH*opponents level*0.2*CA*2% and not EH*opponents level*0.2*CA*2%*1.1

Cruel.

Yeah, I should update that, I forgot about this question. Since getting to level 60 and learning of the AAC's, it is clear that the only way to make the SE bonuses (in EH) from items count is by investing in the Energy master AAC.

Does increasing the expert hunt skill past half your level have any effect? And does it give any direct increase in SE to your hunts, or does it just mean you hunt larger monsters?

Considering that its maximum effect is reached at half your prey's level, not yours, I'd say yes, it has some effect.

It should increase SE from hunts by 5%. But again, that only happens if the skill is at least half the monster's level which you kill.

The way it describes it though is that we will hunt larger monsters (as in lesser, tiny, greater etc.), giving us an average of +5%, not that the monsters we hunt will get +5% increase? Or am i misunderstanding the skill?

So increasing it past level/2 +1 has no effect?

Well the way I understand the description of the skill, it talks about two different things, one regarding the size of the monsters, the other, about the SE income. So it can be interpreted that you get 5% more SE in addition to encountering larger monsters, but that might be totally wrong, and the +5% might come simply from the size of the monsters. There's just not enough information to be sure.

About the other question, the developer once wrote on the Hungarian forum that you will get +5% when you increase it to half the monster's level. That's all we know. So the answer to your question is that I can't be sure about that either. I've been living with the knowledge that +5% is the maximum you can gain from this skill, but I honestly don't know if someone ever was bold enough to experiment with it by raising it to (let's say) twice the suggested value. I guess the only way to find out is to carry out this little experiment, but that won't be me.

AA POINTS ....... in which to invest skill points......

Has anyone got Aura Evolution?
Is it any good?

Cruel.

It's moderatly confusing because the color is red instead of green and it says "your pets lose," but when I total the damage up, it is being credited correctly as damage I do.

I'm still working on the skill, but here are some examples I have had:
He deals 2584 damage. Your negative aura damages him for 129 hit points. Your pets lose 194 hit points.
He deals 2200 damage. Critical damage! He burns 1100 mana from you! Your negative aura damages him for 110 hit points.
She deals 1129 damage. Critical damage! She burns 88 mana from you! Your negative aura damages her for 56 hit points. Your pets lose 64 hit points.
He deals 1596 damage. Critical damage! Your negative aura damages him for 48 hit points. Your pets lose 101 hit points.
You take only 460 damage. Your negative aura damages him for 14 hit points.

Thank you CG.
It seems kinda useless...

What about Useful Energies?
Second part of the description is confusing:
"Does not stack with tusks of loot, the more powerful takes effect"
The only thing I can think of is that it doesn't stack with Energy Master AA.
But if that is the case, why don't they simply say it?!

Cruel.

Because Energy Master and Useful Energies does stack.

Tusk of loot was a relic in the first map event, it increased Energy Harness beyond it's maximum. (I don't know whether anyone has it here on doomlord servers...)

Thank you Matdav.

I don't believe this relic exists here.
And I would like to have it

Cruel.

does anyone know if the AA skill Huckster friend works with the Black Market Membership if you get Huckster Friend FIRST?

or do you need to buy the BMM first for it to work, and then get the AA skill Huckster friend?


I have read on different websites that BMM only works if you buy it first while others said you can get it after you get HF...


anyone know for sure how this works?

I recently bought it and it works