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21. post - 2010.01.27. 10:48:06
Would someone mind clarifying transplantation to me a bit? I am missing the point:

I have now increased it by 2 points, for the total of 7000SE.

I am looking at one skill, lvl 10, whose price decreased from 4680 to 4633 : for 47 SE. It seems to me that, to get my spent SE for transplantation, I should train around 150 skill points??

I do know that total price depends of number of skills, so i can look that i only spent 100 for transplantation (like if it was my first spell), but than again, if i had it from the start, i would have spent much much less for all other skills..

I'd like some mathematical model, or example, to show me how is this skill beneficiary cause I don't see it

thanks to anyone that can explain
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22. post - 2010.01.27. 12:27:53 (Reply to post #21 of Valkyrie.)
Transplantation costs quite a lot if you have a lot of skills already, but the benefit is quite good. Every time you increase it the rest of the skills go down. Also you can mind boost it so if you have it at 5 and you are about to increase it, mind boost it and you are increasing it at a lower cost of 10 (5+5). That also means when you reach 25 stop adding and use the mind boost to a +25 to get the 25% total reduction in skills. So although individually it seems the cost of increasing it is too much for the benefit, if you take the amount of se saved on all the skills you will increase after it pays off.

Especially if you have skills that are 50-60 level, then going for a single level will cost you maybe 7000-8000se. With the transplantation at 25+25 it will cost 5250-6000. Thats quite a good amount, so taking a skill from 50 to 60 will cost (avg 7000 normal se PER LEVEL) 52500 instead of 70000.

I hope this makes sense, overall look at all the skills you increase after taking transplantation to max and you will see that the overall se gain is more than the skill increase cost
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23. post - 2010.01.27. 13:00:09 (Reply to post #21 of Valkyrie.)
transplantation gives its benefits on the long term.. when skill points are above 1000-1500, the SE you spent on transplantation is just a grain of sand
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24. post - 2010.01.27. 13:43:30
thank you both
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25. post - 2010.01.28. 13:47:03
Are there any skills above building level 50?
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26. post - 2010.01.28. 14:20:08 (Reply to post #25 of mr. death dealer.)
There are 2.

Epic specialization: max level is 50, every level decrease with 1 min the time until the next battle, and decrease the damege of the epic spell by 0,5%. So you can attack the epic monster in every 10 min and decrease by 25% the damage of its spell on level 50.

Directed hunting: it decrease the gained SE's difference (lower max, higher min) at the hunting and give +5% for it
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27. post - 2010.03.18. 01:26:50 (Reply to post #15 of stekkos.)
Quote: stekkos - 2009.12.21. 12:57:27

Learning 44
disadvanced development:

Each level of this skill decreases the experience points received from hunt by 1%. The maximum level of the skill is 50, when you will get half experience for hunt.



Why would someone get this?
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28. post - 2010.03.18. 05:32:01 (Reply to post #27 of Viridel.)
Because hunt experience is high compared to other things and slower progression in level allows you more time to get stronger for your level. Other times it is used be clans that started together and want to spread their levels to a wider range without slowing down their game play.
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29. post - 2010.03.20. 15:39:00 (Reply to post #26 of stekkos.)
I must say, the those two skills are not worth their price! Maybe epic spec... But it looses its bonus on high level Epic battles. The 10 minutes are okay,but as long as almost everyone uses disadvanced development, the Epic battles going to stock in time, cause they will be stronger than the entire party and the clans must wait weeks or months to gain enough strength to kill another(after 80-90 epic monsters)...

The directed hunting is useless,except you use it started from lowest levels! Those 5% SE it gives is not much and you must improve the skill level by level with your advancement... If you want to raise it from 0 on higher levels(such as 40+),it doesn't even repays its price! And it has a serious disadvantage also: you gain more SE for tiny and small monsters BUT you also gain fewer for greater and gigantic! This is not a good buiseness! My fellow clanmates on the HUN1 server all forgotten this quest after a few weeks of use(Above lvl70)!
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30. post - 2010.04.17. 16:24:47
Forgive my ignorance, but can anyone tell me the benefits of Oblivion?
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31. post - 2010.04.17. 19:28:47 (Reply to post #30 of FriendlyCheese.)
Skills you added just to complete quests or skills you don't use can be forgotten. You get part of the SE back and the price of adding new skills will go down.
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32. post - 2010.05.01. 15:45:05
Slightly off topic and I apologize, but where can I find a description of the abilities (Str, Att, Def...)
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33. post - 2010.05.01. 17:13:58 (Reply to post #32 of Warrick.)
you can find it HERE.
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34. post - 2010.05.02. 19:08:49 (Reply to post #31 of ChaoticGemini.)
Thanks!
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35. post - 2010.05.28. 17:02:33
I have a question: is there a level cap on the execution skill? Or maybe you can increase it as much as you want?
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36. post - 2010.05.29. 10:12:50
It has no maximum level.
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37. post - 2010.06.02. 20:11:27
I have a question - when I soul-squeeze the pet, does it always count like a normal animal, or is there a chance for it to count as a tiny / lesser/ greater/ huge/ gigantic animal?
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38. post - 2010.06.02. 23:15:42 (Reply to post #37 of Myszone.)
Quote: Myszone - 2010.06.02. 20:11:27
I have a question - when I soul-squeeze the pet, does it always count like a normal animal, or is there a chance for it to count as a tiny / lesser/ greater/ huge/ gigantic animal?


I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. Pets do not have size qualifications. You squeeze SE from a pet you have caught. The base and/or trained level of the pet will help determine the amount you get.
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39. post - 2010.06.03. 00:57:53 (Reply to post #38 of ChaoticGemini.)
Quote: ChaoticGemini - 2010.06.02. 23:15:42
Quote: Myszone - 2010.06.02. 20:11:27
I have a question - when I soul-squeeze the pet, does it always count like a normal animal, or is there a chance for it to count as a tiny / lesser/ greater/ huge/ gigantic animal?


I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. Pets do not have size qualifications. You squeeze SE from a pet you have caught. The base and/or trained level of the pet will help determine the amount you get.


If I read him right, he's wondering whether one's Luck can have a big impact on the SE you squeeze, in the same way that it can during a hunt.
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40. post - 2010.06.03. 01:47:02
Ok, I'll try to explain better. Suppose that I am hunting, and my pray is a Harpy. Let's suppose that if it is a normal Harpy I'll get around 150 SE, and if it's gigantic I'll get around 300.

Now let's suppose I have caught a Harpy with trapping, and my soul-squeazing is level 5 (that means I can squeaze for double the amount I would get from hunting). Now my question is: If I squeaze the Harpy, do I always get around 300 SE, like the Harpy I caught is a normal Harpy? Or maybe there is a chance that I'll get around 600 SE, which would mean the Harpy i caught was a gigantic Harpy?

In other terms : Does the bonus I get from soul-squeazing stack with the bonus I get from luck

Also another question: Does the bonus I get from squeazing stack with bonus from spectral manipulation / golden horn of power?


I don't know why, but this post has just appeared, even though I posted it a few hours ago. Nevertheless - LittleJon understood what I ment
This post was modified by Myszone at 2010.06.03. 01:48:57
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