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Re: Imprisoning Landragor
121. hozzászólás - 2011.09.24. 15:20:51
You can reduce your infection only if it is 3% or more and only to 3%. You cannot use this bonus to attain 0% infection.

I am still 100% positive that the locket of tireledness is instead of the orb of duel, orb of duel is not supposed to drop during this event (and it didn't). Maybe you are right and there is/was a way to get the orb before, I will ask the programmer about it (maybe it was/is some "if you buy ancient stones in the first 3 weeks after starting" bonus).

About a "way to lose the event". Doomlord is a mixture of PVP (player vs player) and PVE (player vs environment) elements. In the pvp elements (dueling, wars, championship) you can lose. On the other hand, PVE elements are granted to give success. Btw, you can lose in a way in PVE elements too: if you are undergeared etc. you can lose battles, if you don't participate, you will miss the bonus. But by being lazy or not skilled enough, you cannot make other players fail. I don't think that is a bad thing.
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122. hozzászólás - 2011.09.24. 16:49:06
I wish I had know that, I would not have fought it for the last 5 levels. Seems a little "unusual" that I cannot use a reward that other players will have the opprotunity to use and I do not get some kind of compensation for it. Players, who already had an auction ticket before the event, received a reward that other players could not receive because they already had a reward offered for the event.
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123. hozzászólás - 2011.09.24. 16:59:41
I m on the same boat as Delph with 1% infection:)
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Re: Imprisoning Landragor
124. hozzászólás - 2011.09.24. 17:58:17 (Válasz Miklos #121 hozzászólására.)
Miklos, you are making confusion between orb of duel and locket, that's why you get to the wrong conclusion.
It is the locket which is awarded for buying ancient stones (I am sure because I got it that way).
The orb of duel dropped during Zarknod, 3th phase, right after transcendal focus and magic absorber, so it should have dropped during Landragor, too.

As Cruel suggested, the locket should have been sold for as, just in case one one doesn't get it in the first week for buying premium. But since it was given during Landragor, the only way to make things fair now is to give the orb to all those who participated in Landragor, and should have dropped it.

Please talk to the programmers, they will confirm that things went this way.
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125. hozzászólás - 2011.09.24. 18:07:49
Well, maybe I am mistaken...

I have got the Locket for buying AS at the beginning. Now I have the Orb as well - and I am 90% sure I did not spent AS on it - I do not duel much... Of course, I could have done this after beer of being mad after a working day at the lab - that is 10%, but I would say (but not bet for it!) that I have dot the Orb during the event...
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Re: Imprisoning Landragor
126. hozzászólás - 2011.09.24. 18:11:51
The Orb of Duel was a reward at Zarknod!
This is a fact!!!!

A possible solution would be to create a 3rd item that grants the same bonus and do the following:
- It would be put for sale for 100 AS
- People who already bought the Orb of Duel for 100 AS would lose the Orb and get this new item
- After that, all people without the Orb (including those who lost it and got the new item) would get the Orb as long they had a minimum of activations in Landragor.

This way, everybody will be happy.
Whoever got the Orb in Zarknod would have the opportunity to buy the new item.
Whoever bought the Orb would also have the chance to also have the 3 items.
Whoever didn't get it at Zarknod would get it now and have the option to buy the 3rd item.
And the admins would be happy as they would make even more money from people who got the Orb at Zarknod and possibly me and Deadstar, who would not be mad anymore.

I believe this is a win-win-win suggestion.

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127. hozzászólás - 2011.09.24. 18:18:57
To clear things:

Locket is a bonus if you buy AS during a set time limit after you create your character, along with a shield.

Orb of duel was a reward from Zargnod, i got it that way so i am 100% sure
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128. hozzászólás - 2011.09.24. 18:44:05 (Válasz stekkos #127 hozzászólására.)
That's right, Zarknod dropped the Orb, I remember it clearly.
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129. hozzászólás - 2011.09.24. 18:44:12 (Válasz Cruel01 #126 hozzászólására.)
I agree with Cruel's suggestion! Great idea
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130. hozzászólás - 2011.09.26. 09:30:27
Looks like there are too many versions of Doomlord, many versions of each event, no wonder sometimes I get confused too

So the orb of duel was dropping during the first Zarknod event on the original Hu Doomlord world. Because many people complained they couldn't get it, we made it possible that people buy it under relics. After a while, we figured that Zarknod was a successful event, so we repeated it with a twist: this was the Landragor event. Because at that time many people purchased the orb, it would have been unfair to give it out for free again. So we made a new items with identical function (LoT) and that was dropping during the second event, Landragor.

Now to the ENG Doomlord worlds Here was a Zarknod event too, and it seems the orb was dropping during that event like on the original world. Then came the Relics option, where you could buy the orb the same way. And now came the Landragor event, where the orb wasn't dropping for the same reason as on the original world. So, currently, there are two items which increase the number of duels: orb and locket. The only way to get the orb is to purchase it under relics. There are 2 ways to get the locket, you can get it immediately when you start a new character, and use it from level 1, or you can wait for the next Landragor event - which happens approx every 6-8 months.

I am sorry but we do not plan on introducing a 3rd item which also increases number of duels in a row. Maybe it would be good to change the initial bonus item from LoT to orb, but many players would prefer a chance to get both items when they start playing, event at a cost, than waiting for one of the items for a half year.

I hope this clears things up.
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Re: Imprisoning Landragor
131. hozzászólás - 2011.09.26. 10:34:33
Idézet: Miklos - 2011.09.26. 09:30:27
Because at that time many people purchased the orb, it would have been unfair to give it out for free again.


I understand this point, but I still believe that it is unfair, exactly in the same way as you say, that some people got the orb of duel for free, while new players have to buy it. That's why we were trying to find a solution to make everyone happy (giving a compensation to those who bought orb of duel, after it drops for free during Landragor).
But it seems that you prefer leaving some people unhappy, hoping to make some extra money by selling the orb of duel (that I will never buy).
I am very disappointed by this. This ends the discussion, as far as I am concerned.
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Re: Imprisoning Landragor
132. hozzászólás - 2011.09.26. 13:00:28 (Válasz deadstar #131 hozzászólására.)
Deadstar is absolutely right.
You say it would be unfair to give the Orb for free because some people purchased it. But you forget it is unfair not to give it for free and allow some people to receive it as drop it while others have to buy it.
Regarding your suggestion, I don't know how it would fix the problem. I would still have no Orb of Duel unless I purchase it and some people would still have it for free.
Regarding my suggestion, it would fix the problem, but you are already discarding it.

It seems you are comfortable in keeping the situation as it is. You simply don't don't care about the fact that the current situation is unfair for many players. And this is particularly strange given that you claim not to have given the Orb for free in Landragor to avoid being unfair. You are either being inconsistent or your reason not to give it at Landragor has absolutely nothing to do with fairness. I would bet on the second.

P.S. I am on the same page as Deadstar. I will not buy the Orb because this is BS. Even though I would buy a 3rd item in case it was put for sale, as I suggested.

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Re: Imprisoning Landragor
133. hozzászólás - 2011.09.26. 15:16:17
Idk what fair solution would be but this could go in circles. A lot of mixed characters would not welcome the addition of another relic giving extra penalty free round for spiders.
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Re: Imprisoning Landragor
134. hozzászólás - 2011.09.26. 20:04:21
Why not just alternate the orb & locket in the events? I.e. 1st event had orb, 2nd had locket so next event drop the orb again? Put both for sell in Relics for those that want to buy them.

Another thought is to drop the relic based on what a character already has - i.e. if they have an orb, the get the LOT but if they have the LOT then they get the orb. If they have neither it doesn't matter which one they get.
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Re: Imprisoning Landragor
135. hozzászólás - 2011.09.26. 21:37:40
The question (as I see it) is not in alternating, or not alternating. At the end, now everybody can have both easily - LoT as a starting bonus, and Orb - under relics. The problem is that somebody got it for free (as a prize), and somebody have to pay. In my point of view, this is... well, not completely silly or meaningless or whatever (sorry, I am not that good in English to find a right word late at night) - but this discussion is much about almost nothing. This is part of the game, and there are so many cases when you can miss something. I missed the Zarknod event because of joining the game too late - and I spent months without its rewards. I did not participate in Huckster's wars being on vacation - how can I get the benefits now? No way... I bought the Scroll for AS to complete the quest - and a week after it is available at the Auction - what a pity!

All I want to say (maybe you disagree, but that is my opinion) - missing something is part of every game (and our life, too). There are some irreversible situations and decisions - take the Orb issue as that kind of stuff. At the end, it does not grant absolute power to conquer the world...
For Admins - maybe a part-decision could be to include these two relics into Auction House rotation? Then everybody will virtually have an opportunity to get both relics any time, but it will not be that easy as during the event. And those who do not want to wait for months, can still have the Orb for AS.
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Re: Imprisoning Landragor
136. hozzászólás - 2011.09.27. 03:24:01
I understand the issue - just didn't want to restate what's been posted numerous times already. I was just throwing an idea out there for the game going forward. If there were a simple fix, it would be done arleady.

Not only is it part of the game but it's part of programming/development - sometimes you just slip up in the code and make a mistake that doesn't get caught until it's too late
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137. hozzászólás - 2011.09.27. 06:45:17
Where is the Landragor medal?
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138. hozzászólás - 2011.09.27. 06:49:15
Why Zarknod medal? This event was Landragor. Hungarian sever this was an other medal.
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139. hozzászólás - 2011.09.27. 08:23:03 (Válasz MacSka #138 hozzászólására.)
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Why Zarknod medal? This event was Landragor. Hungarian sever this was an other medal.


I have no idea what the reward was on the Hungarian servers in the original event (or this one), but from the text in the end of the event it is perfectly clear why it is "Zarknod medals" and not "Landragor medals". Why would the guy we just imprisoned give us medals?
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140. hozzászólás - 2011.09.27. 10:24:31
Well, you get the medal from Zarknod for helping re-imprisoning Landragor, hence the name "Zarknod medal".

Eukar said some wise words, we will add the orb of duel to the auction house so people who do not want to purchase it can still have a way to acquire it for free. I hope you find this a satisfactory solution.
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