In Baseball, how many Strikes and you're Out?
Two
Three
Four
Unlimited
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer.
I tried playing nice. I made changes that were suggested to me. But I'm not going to sit here and tell me that Stephen King novel are more "important" to learn about than baseball. To those who have tried to make this game enjoyable, thank you. To those moderators who succeeded in making me hate this game and everyone who runs it; fuck you and your double standards.
Hozzászólások - Nemesis 666
Oldal: 1
Dátum: 2010.05.29. 02:27:08
Dátum: 2010.05.29. 02:23:44
In Baseball, how many Strikes and you're Out?
Two
Three
Four
Unlimited
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer.
Seriously; what the hell.
I'm out. Bye. Thanks for nothing, and I hope your game goes bankrupt. Assholes.
Two
Three
Four
Unlimited
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer.
Seriously; what the hell.
I'm out. Bye. Thanks for nothing, and I hope your game goes bankrupt. Assholes.
Quiz -> Quiz errors
Dátum: 2010.05.23. 21:46:06
In mathmatics, Pi, in short, equals what?
2.27683896
3.14159625
3.14159265
5.28767302
Does anyone else see the issue here? If so, you are overqualified to be a moderator too!
2.27683896
3.14159625
3.14159265
5.28767302
Does anyone else see the issue here? If so, you are overqualified to be a moderator too!
Quiz -> Quiz errors
Dátum: 2010.05.20. 05:53:41
Idézet: Thetus - 2010.05.19. 23:22:23
Sure, but it's not the writers job not to be insane; it's the moderators job not to let insane people wreck our game.
Unfortunately it's the moderators who are evidently insane.
Megalol, D00ml0rd. This question's author must have been insane 
Sure, but it's not the writers job not to be insane; it's the moderators job not to let insane people wreck our game.
Unfortunately it's the moderators who are evidently insane.
Dátum: 2010.05.20. 05:49:52
Idézet: stekkos - 2010.05.20. 04:16:11
Dude, he's asking the same question! The whole Crosby thing is a hint!
Question 1) Who won The Cup in 2009
Question 2) Who won The Cup in 2009 [hint: It's the team Sydney Crosby plays for]
Stekkos - you are wrong, wrong, wrong, with a side dish of WRONG!
And thank you for taking the time to respond to my complaints regarding your farcical evaluation of my baseball questions [this is sarcasm; you have just ignored me; way to take accountability!]. I have nothing more to say other than you royally suck ass at your job in this game. And unfortunately this fucks up the game for the rest of us.
Viridrel, you are still complaining about the obvious: Which team won a recent major championship is good, asking about players of the team is not. Your question might be the same or easier, it is not the point.
Dude, he's asking the same question! The whole Crosby thing is a hint!
Question 1) Who won The Cup in 2009
Question 2) Who won The Cup in 2009 [hint: It's the team Sydney Crosby plays for]
Stekkos - you are wrong, wrong, wrong, with a side dish of WRONG!
And thank you for taking the time to respond to my complaints regarding your farcical evaluation of my baseball questions [this is sarcasm; you have just ignored me; way to take accountability!]. I have nothing more to say other than you royally suck ass at your job in this game. And unfortunately this fucks up the game for the rest of us.
Dátum: 2010.05.16. 03:19:18
It was suggested I repost here to give Stekkos a chance to respond in a more applicable part of the forum.
Idézet: stekkos - 2010.05.13. 03:36:01
1) I never said Culture was related to the quantity of questions; I said that culture should not be an excuse to EXCLUDE a question.
2) The rules of an international sport is no more specific than asking about the writer of the Sword of Truth or asking a L.O.T.R. questions about how many rings went to Elven Kings
3) If every question in the quiz was as simplistic as "what do you call the thing that hits a golf ball", that part of the game would be TRULY pathetic. As much as you don't care to learn about Baseball Infielders, I don't care to learn about writers or philosophers. While I don't dispute that your role as a Mod is more important than mine as a player, I do dispute the fact that you control a facet of the game based partially on your personal interests.
4) If I were a zoologist, and every question I asked was about animals, would you be tracking/asking this? Maybe if there were enough questions about topics I like (sports), I wouldn't feel the need to balance the quiz.
5) Google "Players Infield Baseball", and right in the Google text preview; "In the standard arrangement of a baseball team in the field, three players are in the distant outfield and six on the infield, the square baseball diamond ..."
6) According to http://mostpopularwebsites.net/51-100/, ESPN is the #80 visited website (and a lot higher if you take out the dozen international Google and several Yahoos and eBays). I didn't see any Arts&Lit sites in the top 100, yet there appears to be at least a 5:1 ratio on Culture vs. Sports questions.
I still have not read any legitimate reason for questions of this nature to be declined, aside from things that reveal personal or geographical bias'; neither of which are healthy in developing an International game.
Idézet: stekkos - 2010.05.13. 03:36:01
The hungarian version of the game is going on for almost a year more than the international version, has more worlds so the same players post more questions and it seems it currently has more players than the international. So culture has nothing to do with the ammount of questions.
As for baseball being popular or not, this is not the issue. Posting questions about the rules of a sport is not general trivia, is specific subject. Only those that want to learn to PLAY the sport need it. On the other hand, as LittleJon said, the questions should be about learning something, even if you will never play the sport. So, learning that baseball is a game involving hitting the ball with a bat is a good question, or what is called a home run. On the other hand, questions like ""In a normal formation (and including the Catcher), how many defensive players play in the Infield"", are too into the details, using words that you have to know baseball to understand the question in the first place. So the player doent learn something about the game, it just tries to figure out what the question is talking about to get the 10% from the hunt.
Another small issue is that Nemesis is posting these type of questions ONLY. Why not post about other subjects also, that will surely bring more variety to the quiz and get more questions evaluated as good.
As for baseball being popular or not, this is not the issue. Posting questions about the rules of a sport is not general trivia, is specific subject. Only those that want to learn to PLAY the sport need it. On the other hand, as LittleJon said, the questions should be about learning something, even if you will never play the sport. So, learning that baseball is a game involving hitting the ball with a bat is a good question, or what is called a home run. On the other hand, questions like ""In a normal formation (and including the Catcher), how many defensive players play in the Infield"", are too into the details, using words that you have to know baseball to understand the question in the first place. So the player doent learn something about the game, it just tries to figure out what the question is talking about to get the 10% from the hunt.
Another small issue is that Nemesis is posting these type of questions ONLY. Why not post about other subjects also, that will surely bring more variety to the quiz and get more questions evaluated as good.
1) I never said Culture was related to the quantity of questions; I said that culture should not be an excuse to EXCLUDE a question.
2) The rules of an international sport is no more specific than asking about the writer of the Sword of Truth or asking a L.O.T.R. questions about how many rings went to Elven Kings
3) If every question in the quiz was as simplistic as "what do you call the thing that hits a golf ball", that part of the game would be TRULY pathetic. As much as you don't care to learn about Baseball Infielders, I don't care to learn about writers or philosophers. While I don't dispute that your role as a Mod is more important than mine as a player, I do dispute the fact that you control a facet of the game based partially on your personal interests.
4) If I were a zoologist, and every question I asked was about animals, would you be tracking/asking this? Maybe if there were enough questions about topics I like (sports), I wouldn't feel the need to balance the quiz.
5) Google "Players Infield Baseball", and right in the Google text preview; "In the standard arrangement of a baseball team in the field, three players are in the distant outfield and six on the infield, the square baseball diamond ..."
6) According to http://mostpopularwebsites.net/51-100/, ESPN is the #80 visited website (and a lot higher if you take out the dozen international Google and several Yahoos and eBays). I didn't see any Arts&Lit sites in the top 100, yet there appears to be at least a 5:1 ratio on Culture vs. Sports questions.
I still have not read any legitimate reason for questions of this nature to be declined, aside from things that reveal personal or geographical bias'; neither of which are healthy in developing an International game.
Dátum: 2010.05.13. 05:02:52
Idézet: stekkos - 2010.05.13. 03:36:01
1) I never said Culture was related to the quantity of questions; I said that culture should not be an excuse to EXCLUDE a question.
2) The rules of an international sport is no more specific than asking about the writer of the Sword of Truth or asking a L.O.T.R. questions about how many rings went to Elven Kings
3) If every question in the quiz was as simplistic as "what do you call the thing that hits a golf ball", that part of the game would be TRULY pathetic. As much as you don't care to learn about Baseball Infielders, I don't care to learn about writers or philosophers. While I don't dispute that your role as a Mod is more important than mine as a player, I do dispute the fact that you control a facet of the game based partially on your personal interests.
4) If I were a zoologist, and every question I asked was about animals, would you be tracking/asking this? Maybe if there were enough questions about topics I like (sports), I wouldn't feel the need to balance the quiz.
5) Google "Players Infield Baseball", and right in the Google text preview; "In the standard arrangement of a baseball team in the field, three players are in the distant outfield and six on the infield, the square baseball diamond ..."
6) According to http://mostpopularwebsites.net/51-100/, ESPN is the #80 visited website (and a lot higher if you take out the dozen international Google and several Yahoos and eBays). I didn't see any Arts&Lit sites in the top 100, yet there appears to be at least a 5:1 ratio on Culture vs. Sports questions.
I still have not read any legitimate reason for questions of this nature to be declined, aside from things that reveal personal or geographical bias'; neither of which are healthy in developing an International game.
The hungarian version of the game is going on for almost a year more than the international version, has more worlds so the same players post more questions and it seems it currently has more players than the international. So culture has nothing to do with the ammount of questions.
As for baseball being popular or not, this is not the issue. Posting questions about the rules of a sport is not general trivia, is specific subject. Only those that want to learn to PLAY the sport need it. On the other hand, as LittleJon said, the questions should be about learning something, even if you will never play the sport. So, learning that baseball is a game involving hitting the ball with a bat is a good question, or what is called a home run. On the other hand, questions like ""In a normal formation (and including the Catcher), how many defensive players play in the Infield"", are too into the details, using words that you have to know baseball to understand the question in the first place. So the player doent learn something about the game, it just tries to figure out what the question is talking about to get the 10% from the hunt.
Another small issue is that Nemesis is posting these type of questions ONLY. Why not post about other subjects also, that will surely bring more variety to the quiz and get more questions evaluated as good.
As for baseball being popular or not, this is not the issue. Posting questions about the rules of a sport is not general trivia, is specific subject. Only those that want to learn to PLAY the sport need it. On the other hand, as LittleJon said, the questions should be about learning something, even if you will never play the sport. So, learning that baseball is a game involving hitting the ball with a bat is a good question, or what is called a home run. On the other hand, questions like ""In a normal formation (and including the Catcher), how many defensive players play in the Infield"", are too into the details, using words that you have to know baseball to understand the question in the first place. So the player doent learn something about the game, it just tries to figure out what the question is talking about to get the 10% from the hunt.
Another small issue is that Nemesis is posting these type of questions ONLY. Why not post about other subjects also, that will surely bring more variety to the quiz and get more questions evaluated as good.
1) I never said Culture was related to the quantity of questions; I said that culture should not be an excuse to EXCLUDE a question.
2) The rules of an international sport is no more specific than asking about the writer of the Sword of Truth or asking a L.O.T.R. questions about how many rings went to Elven Kings
3) If every question in the quiz was as simplistic as "what do you call the thing that hits a golf ball", that part of the game would be TRULY pathetic. As much as you don't care to learn about Baseball Infielders, I don't care to learn about writers or philosophers. While I don't dispute that your role as a Mod is more important than mine as a player, I do dispute the fact that you control a facet of the game based partially on your personal interests.
4) If I were a zoologist, and every question I asked was about animals, would you be tracking/asking this? Maybe if there were enough questions about topics I like (sports), I wouldn't feel the need to balance the quiz.
5) Google "Players Infield Baseball", and right in the Google text preview; "In the standard arrangement of a baseball team in the field, three players are in the distant outfield and six on the infield, the square baseball diamond ..."
6) According to http://mostpopularwebsites.net/51-100/, ESPN is the #80 visited website (and a lot higher if you take out the dozen international Google and several Yahoos and eBays). I didn't see any Arts&Lit sites in the top 100, yet there appears to be at least a 5:1 ratio on Culture vs. Sports questions.
I still have not read any legitimate reason for questions of this nature to be declined, aside from things that reveal personal or geographical bias'; neither of which are healthy in developing an International game.
Dátum: 2010.05.13. 03:51:40
Idézet: ImLittleJon - 2010.05.13. 01:10:13
Bingo. And don't forget Australia. The very fact that somebody in this game says "They don't do X here, therefore it shouldn't be in the quiz" creates a MASSIVE problem with the international flavour of the quiz. You shouldn't be able to ask European questions that North America doesn't know (in spite of an evident tendency to the contrary) and then turn around and decline what *might* have a North American slant, merely because it's not known in the Eastern Bloc. A good question is a good question, and it shouldn't be kicked over debatable geography.
I do not care in the slightest what goes on with the Quiz on the Hungarian servers. But you have to treat the World servers as WORLD servers.
Idézet: Dakaan - 2010.05.12. 23:56:49
Baseball is extremely popular throughout the Western Hemisphere, as well as in Japan. Comparing it to oina is just a strawman argument. A better comparison would be cricket, which nobody in the US plays, other than the odd immigrant. The fact that I know nothing about cricket should not make it an invalid subject for a quiz question. It should be an opportunity for me to learn about other cultures. Just as baseball questions would be an opportunity for you to learn something.
I don't know anything about baseball since in my country nobody plays that sport .. so i think stekkos has a valid point. What if i ask a question about "oina" that it's a let's say "somehow" similar old sport in Romania ... would you know the answer ?
Baseball is extremely popular throughout the Western Hemisphere, as well as in Japan. Comparing it to oina is just a strawman argument. A better comparison would be cricket, which nobody in the US plays, other than the odd immigrant. The fact that I know nothing about cricket should not make it an invalid subject for a quiz question. It should be an opportunity for me to learn about other cultures. Just as baseball questions would be an opportunity for you to learn something.
Bingo. And don't forget Australia. The very fact that somebody in this game says "They don't do X here, therefore it shouldn't be in the quiz" creates a MASSIVE problem with the international flavour of the quiz. You shouldn't be able to ask European questions that North America doesn't know (in spite of an evident tendency to the contrary) and then turn around and decline what *might* have a North American slant, merely because it's not known in the Eastern Bloc. A good question is a good question, and it shouldn't be kicked over debatable geography.
I do not care in the slightest what goes on with the Quiz on the Hungarian servers. But you have to treat the World servers as WORLD servers.
Dátum: 2010.05.12. 23:52:15
Idézet: stekkos - 2010.05.12. 19:38:31
And why is a sport question rejected at all? We all have the ability to discover an answer, and I would suggest that more people have at least a passing familiarity with baseball than personally experienced (read a book; seen a play; viewed the art) 75% of the "culture" questions. I read somewhere on this forum that there are 200,000 questions in the Hungarian worlds, but only 12,000 in the International game. How is this possible??? How can the culture of one country be 15x larger than the culture of the entire world?
I give you all the credit in the world for stepping forward and taking "credit" for declining it - but the logic behind the decision is simply ludicrous. A good question is a good question; regardless of how many sports questions vs. how many culture questions there are. The quiz is "designed" by the players; if there are "too many" sports questions, it's because that's where the interest of the question askers are.
As for baseball specifically, there is a World Cup of Baseball, so calling it a non-international game is another fallacy.
Regarding the exact question, it was called "Ambiguous", and I was told that it was because I didn't have Baseball in the question. I changed my question to add Baseball in, to remove the ambiguity. Don't come back and "blame" me for re-posting, when I corrected the problem for what it was rejected for in the first place!
How do you justify ANY of this?
The first rejection was by me, and it was because i didnt want you to lose you chance to post a question. Then it seems you went ahedad and posted the same type and got rejected. Baseball is far from international sport, especially if we are talking rules of the game. Football (or soccer) is a much more known sport but you will notice no questions about its rules. On the other hand there are a lot of other type of questions about it, and other sports including baseball. I am sure you got at least a few in the hunts. So is not the sport that gets your questions rejected, its the type of questions you ask.
And why is a sport question rejected at all? We all have the ability to discover an answer, and I would suggest that more people have at least a passing familiarity with baseball than personally experienced (read a book; seen a play; viewed the art) 75% of the "culture" questions. I read somewhere on this forum that there are 200,000 questions in the Hungarian worlds, but only 12,000 in the International game. How is this possible??? How can the culture of one country be 15x larger than the culture of the entire world?
I give you all the credit in the world for stepping forward and taking "credit" for declining it - but the logic behind the decision is simply ludicrous. A good question is a good question; regardless of how many sports questions vs. how many culture questions there are. The quiz is "designed" by the players; if there are "too many" sports questions, it's because that's where the interest of the question askers are.
As for baseball specifically, there is a World Cup of Baseball, so calling it a non-international game is another fallacy.
Regarding the exact question, it was called "Ambiguous", and I was told that it was because I didn't have Baseball in the question. I changed my question to add Baseball in, to remove the ambiguity. Don't come back and "blame" me for re-posting, when I corrected the problem for what it was rejected for in the first place!
How do you justify ANY of this?
Dátum: 2010.05.12. 16:57:37
Idézet: Nemesis 666 - 2010.05.07. 03:49:19
Ok, so now the first question has been rejected for "already being in the database"; which it isn't, since I asked it, and it was rejected as per the above.
And the 2nd question has been rejected for "According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer."; which is strange since it was clearly indicated to me on this forum that a question about the rules in an international sport would pass.
And I am so sick and tired of all the questions with writers and poets. Are those questions seriously considered less "special group" than rules about baseball?
I am just so beyond words as to my frustration with this game right now.
A) In a normal formation (and including the Catcher), how many defensive players play in the Infield?
4
5
6
7
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators your question is ambiguous.
B) What is the term for the player that is in the lineup to bat instead of the pitcher?
Designated Hitter
Pinch Hitter
Replacement Hitter
Switch Hitter
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators your question is ambiguous.
Ok, A) isn't the easiest question in the quiz, but is FAR from "ambiguous". There is NO debate about Question B), and having this rejected is a farce.
I've been playing for two days, and these are the first two questions I've asked. If this is any indication of the crap I'm going to have to put up with, just tell me now so I can stop wasting any more time on this game. And I've already gone out and bought Stones, so that tells you how "irritated" I am right now).
Oh, and even better; I wrote these to finish the first quest. So now I can't even ask another question. I really want to hear from a moderator on this, because right now, none of my thoughts towards this game are very positive.
4
5
6
7
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators your question is ambiguous.
B) What is the term for the player that is in the lineup to bat instead of the pitcher?
Designated Hitter
Pinch Hitter
Replacement Hitter
Switch Hitter
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators your question is ambiguous.
Ok, A) isn't the easiest question in the quiz, but is FAR from "ambiguous". There is NO debate about Question B), and having this rejected is a farce.
I've been playing for two days, and these are the first two questions I've asked. If this is any indication of the crap I'm going to have to put up with, just tell me now so I can stop wasting any more time on this game. And I've already gone out and bought Stones, so that tells you how "irritated" I am right now).
Oh, and even better; I wrote these to finish the first quest. So now I can't even ask another question. I really want to hear from a moderator on this, because right now, none of my thoughts towards this game are very positive.
Ok, so now the first question has been rejected for "already being in the database"; which it isn't, since I asked it, and it was rejected as per the above.
And the 2nd question has been rejected for "According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer."; which is strange since it was clearly indicated to me on this forum that a question about the rules in an international sport would pass.
And I am so sick and tired of all the questions with writers and poets. Are those questions seriously considered less "special group" than rules about baseball?
I am just so beyond words as to my frustration with this game right now.
Dátum: 2010.05.12. 06:46:19
In a normal Baseball formation (and including the Catcher), how many defensive players play in the Infield?
4
5
6
7
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
This question is already part of the database.
It's not part of the database, because I asked this already, and it was rejected for being ambiguous. If it was already part of the database, wouldn't it be rejected on that basis, and not on previously being ambiguous? Some consistency would really be nice here.
4
5
6
7
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
This question is already part of the database.
It's not part of the database, because I asked this already, and it was rejected for being ambiguous. If it was already part of the database, wouldn't it be rejected on that basis, and not on previously being ambiguous? Some consistency would really be nice here.
Dátum: 2010.05.08. 22:19:09
Idézet: ImLittleJon - 2010.05.07. 13:43:16
Hmmm. Yes. Anger fading. Fading. Gone. My bad. I will resubmit with Baseball in the question and keep you informed of the result
Idézet: stekkos - 2010.05.07. 10:29:53
I would actually disagree with both parts of that statement. The questions were ambiguous because they didn't specify what sport they referred to.
Nemesis, your questions are not ambiguous bad they fall in the special knowleadge section.
I would actually disagree with both parts of that statement. The questions were ambiguous because they didn't specify what sport they referred to.
Hmmm. Yes. Anger fading. Fading. Gone. My bad. I will resubmit with Baseball in the question and keep you informed of the result
Dátum: 2010.05.07. 03:49:19
A) In a normal formation (and including the Catcher), how many defensive players play in the Infield?
4
5
6
7
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators your question is ambiguous.
B) What is the term for the player that is in the lineup to bat instead of the pitcher?
Designated Hitter
Pinch Hitter
Replacement Hitter
Switch Hitter
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators your question is ambiguous.
Ok, A) isn't the easiest question in the quiz, but is FAR from "ambiguous". There is NO debate about Question B), and having this rejected is a farce.
I've been playing for two days, and these are the first two questions I've asked. If this is any indication of the crap I'm going to have to put up with, just tell me now so I can stop wasting any more time on this game. And I've already gone out and bought Stones, so that tells you how "irritated" I am right now).
Oh, and even better; I wrote these to finish the first quest. So now I can't even ask another question. I really want to hear from a moderator on this, because right now, none of my thoughts towards this game are very positive.
4
5
6
7
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators your question is ambiguous.
B) What is the term for the player that is in the lineup to bat instead of the pitcher?
Designated Hitter
Pinch Hitter
Replacement Hitter
Switch Hitter
The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators your question is ambiguous.
Ok, A) isn't the easiest question in the quiz, but is FAR from "ambiguous". There is NO debate about Question B), and having this rejected is a farce.
I've been playing for two days, and these are the first two questions I've asked. If this is any indication of the crap I'm going to have to put up with, just tell me now so I can stop wasting any more time on this game. And I've already gone out and bought Stones, so that tells you how "irritated" I am right now).
Oh, and even better; I wrote these to finish the first quest. So now I can't even ask another question. I really want to hear from a moderator on this, because right now, none of my thoughts towards this game are very positive.
Quiz -> Quiz errors
Dátum: 2010.05.06. 21:47:28
What kind of question is this?
Which team was beaten by US Dream Team on Olympic Games at Barcelona 1992?
Italy
Croatia
Argentina
Yugoslavia
I like sports, but wow, is this out of left field (that's baseball, by the way).
Which team was beaten by US Dream Team on Olympic Games at Barcelona 1992?
Italy
Croatia
Argentina
Yugoslavia
I like sports, but wow, is this out of left field (that's baseball, by the way).
Oldal: 1