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Re: Xeno wars
121. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 18:00:15 (Válasz Miklos #120 hozzászólására.)
Idézet: Miklos - 2011.02.04. 16:12:35
LydonB, you probably misunderstood something. A potion drops for every 12 attacks, but there are 4 different potions and you get each in order. So you get one of all for potion after 48 attacks. You don't get all potions for every 12 attacks. There was a 5th potion originally, which gives +3 APts but it was removed for game balance issues.


That explains it then, I also looted an HP pot; so it makes sense.


The 3 top10 catgory is for each world, there is no separate top10 for every 10 levels. Same as it was in Zarknod. In consideration of number of victories, it is irrelevant if you are level 50 or 90.



Actually, it's quite relevant.

After the level 90 queen is down, the level 90 players will shift to the level 80 queen (since: If all higher level queens are defeated, you will help with the lower level ones.) Thus, the queens the level 90 players will be attacking will be easier for every single one they down. Whilst on the other hand, the rest of the players will be facing harder queens which consequently deal higher damage.

This means that level 90 players will have it easier at every step, with queens that deal less damage; thus increasing the amount of attacks per full HP bar.

Their EH also give more SE, thus making the cycle of attacking and restoring HP via potions profitable. Whilst again, the lower level players will be rewarded with less amounts of SE via EH, which makes the attacking/HP pot cycle a bottomless well for SE.


Can you see why mixing all the players in the same world is relevant? The lower levels will never be able to compete with the higher levels with the current ruleset/mechanics.
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Re: Xeno wars
122. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 19:22:15
what exactly are the rewards for this event?

i saw the original list but it appears things have changed and i cant really find a c omplete list of what is ac tually on offer.

please point me to this or update thread and why cant these things be included int he desc ription of event under Misc menu for players

if players dont actually read forum and im sure alot dont how do they know what this event is about actually?
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Re: Xeno wars
123. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 19:32:27 (Válasz D00ml0rd #122 hozzászólására.)
Idézet: D00ml0rd - 2011.02.04. 19:22:15
what exactly are the rewards for this event?

i saw the original list but it appears things have changed and i cant really find a complete list of what is actually on offer.

please point me to this or update thread and why cant these things be included int he desc ription of event under Misc menu for players

if players dont actually read forum and im sure alot dont how do they know what this event is about actually?


Under the Xeno War tab there is a tab called Rewards. Most of the information is there.
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Re: Xeno wars
124. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 19:36:07 (Válasz D00ml0rd #122 hozzászólására.)
Idézet: D00ml0rd - 2011.02.04. 19:22:15
what exactly are the rewards for this event?

i saw the original list but it appears things have changed and i cant really find a c omplete list of what is ac tually on offer.

please point me to this or update thread and why cant these things be included int he desc ription of event under Misc menu for players

if players dont actually read forum and im sure alot dont how do they know what this event is about actually?


ok found the list

forget post
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Re: Xeno wars
125. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 19:36:25 (Válasz Sbart #123 hozzászólására.)
Idézet: Sbart - 2011.02.04. 19:32:27
Idézet: D00ml0rd - 2011.02.04. 19:22:15
what exactly are the rewards for this event?

i saw the original list but it appears things have changed and i cant really find a complete list of what is actually on offer.

please point me to this or update thread and why cant these things be included int he desc ription of event under Misc menu for players

if players dont actually read forum and im sure alot dont how do they know what this event is about actually?


Under the Xeno War tab there is a tab called Rewards. Most of the information is there.


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Re: Xeno wars
126. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 19:41:10
ok another question

the pets kill

are they how many of our own pets are killed? i have had a few fights so far and i havent seen a pet on monstor

i have caught one tho does that count?
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Re: Xeno wars
127. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 19:50:36 (Válasz D00ml0rd #126 hozzászólására.)
It's about your pets.
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Re: Xeno wars
128. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 20:14:56 (Válasz quint #127 hozzászólására.)
Idézet: quint - 2011.02.04. 19:50:36
It's about your pets.


lol

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Re: Xeno wars
129. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 23:22:16
Damage dealt doesn't matter at all? seems a bit meh.. i can beat the current queen in my manabuiding gear
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Re: Xeno wars
130. hozzászólás - 2011.02.04. 23:40:17 (Válasz Inv_ #129 hozzászólására.)
Idézet: Inv_ - 2011.02.04. 23:22:16
Damage dealt doesn't matter at all? seems a bit meh.. i can beat the current queen in my manabuiding gear


Look under the Statistics tab and you will see the % of HP left on the Queen. If you don´t kill her, you loose in the end and get no reward...so damage done matters.
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Re: Xeno wars
131. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 00:06:30
You drink the crystal potion, you get 5 crystal points.

i thought 50, since that number is on item description..
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Re: Xeno wars
132. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 00:41:14 (Válasz Sbart #130 hozzászólására.)
Idézet: Sbart - 2011.02.04. 23:40:17
Idézet: Inv_ - 2011.02.04. 23:22:16
Damage dealt doesn't matter at all? seems a bit meh.. i can beat the current queen in my manabuiding gear


Look under the Statistics tab and you will see the % of HP left on the Queen. If you don´t kill her, you loose in the end and get no reward...so damage done matters.


yeah. it matters, but it doesn't really give me any benefits. someone who barely wins the fight gets the same reward as me...
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Re: Xeno wars
133. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 01:40:28
What about the reward for the top 10?

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Re: Xeno wars
134. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 02:42:22
I agree with whomever said the high level players will have an advantage as they will have easier fights when dueling the lower level queens. Not to mention that higher level players probably have higher level Shape Reality and Elementary Fusion skills, which gives them more xeno fights.
Also, I believe the power of the queens is way unbalanced. Queen lvl 55 is at 46.5% HP while queen lvl 5 is still at 99.3%.

Another thing...

As I had predicted, this event is not for duelers. The ratio SE/XP on the Xeno fights is VERY low! Any dueler will have to choose between fighting to be in the top 10 or keeping his strategy.

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Re: Xeno wars
135. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 03:38:54
I agree with Cruel that the SE to XP ratio is terrible. I'm getting around 500 SE from the event for the same XP I would get thousands of SE for in regular play.

I would like to know:
Do players get the opportunity to get an item for their fighting AND building, as long as only one is a focus crystal and they are not the same item?
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Re: Xeno wars
136. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 07:09:54
I noticed that you can not build with manaconstruction while you are resting (you can build your clan while resting)
BUT you can build the thaumaturgical prison while resting using your own SE
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Re: Xeno wars
137. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 08:09:32 (Válasz RedGugu #136 hozzászólására.)
Idézet: RedGugu - 2011.02.05. 07:09:54
I noticed that you can not build with manaconstruction while you are resting (you can build your clan while resting)

You can build with manaconstruction while resting, but you can only use manaconstruction if your spell points are at their maximum. (regardless whether you are resting or not) Maybe that's why you couldn't build with manaconstruction, because you had less SPs than the maximum.
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Re: Xeno wars
138. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 09:40:44 (Válasz quint #137 hozzászólására.)
Idézet: quint - 2011.02.05. 08:09:32
Idézet: RedGugu - 2011.02.05. 07:09:54
I noticed that you can not build with manaconstruction while you are resting (you can build your clan while resting)

You can build with manaconstruction while resting, but you can only use manaconstruction if your spell points are at their maximum. (regardless whether you are resting or not) Maybe that's why you couldn't build with manaconstruction, because you had less SPs than the maximum.


I had max SP at the time , but I had to stop resting to use it
I'll give it another try in 13 hours
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Re: Xeno wars
139. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 12:56:19
It's very hard to balance so it is an equal challenge to higher and lower level players, but we did a few things to help this.
First of all, queens will have a damage reduction when they fight against players of level 40 or less. The lower level the player, the greater dmg reduction the queen gets.
Second, if you have to attack a higher level queen because yours is dead, then the queen will be only slightly more powerful. In addition, if you have to attack 2 or more tiers up, it does not get even more powerful. We tested this, players with good equipment will have no problem fighting even upwards.
Same applies to when you attack lower level queens, they will be only slightly easier.
Still, I agree that very low level players without elementary infusion have a disadvantage since they regenerate less APts. But don't forget, the main reward depends on the number of kills, the top10 is just a small bonus, extra thing, an extra goal for the more powerful players. Those who have already access to maxed elementary fusion compete at equal chance for the top10, whether level 50 or 90. If we would have created also a top10 for every 10 levels, it would degrade the honor of getting the medal, virtually anyone could get it. Also a lower level player can pretty well balance out this disadvantage if he saved up a lot of Apts/Dpts.

About the SE/XP ratio, it is the exact same as you get while hunting. If you are using a strategy where you don't hunt at all, then use DPts instead.You can get pretty good SE/XP ratio if you get 0 XP for an activation but you complete repeatable quests for SE

Someone asked about the top10 rewards.
Most victories: +5 to critical hit medal.
Most builds: medallion of doom (+1 building, -1 sec to hunting)
Most unconscious pets (actually a fun category): +1% SE for squeezing.
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Re: Xeno wars
140. hozzászólás - 2011.02.05. 13:16:14
You can get pretty good SE/XP ratio if you get 0 XP for an activation but you complete repeatable quests for SE


What do you mean? I get XP per DP activation.
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