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1121. post - 2010.12.27. 02:14:37
I don't understand how to enable fighting with more than one pet. Could this be explained, please?
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1122. post - 2010.12.27. 03:20:52
The hordemaking skill becomes available at learning level 38. To reach learning level 38, you must be in a clan with an academy of at least level 4 (and to have paid enough SE to have access to the buildings)

horde making:
This skill gives you the opportunity to take more than one pet into battle. At level 10 plus 1, at level 30 plus 2, at the maximal level 60 plus 3 animals may be assigned to fight. If you take more animals into battle, each attacks and damages your opponent, but the absorption does not sum up, just the average is counted. If victorious each pet receives a morale bonus and experience points.


Back to the AA points again, when you invest in the Respecialization skill, is that a one time cost to grant access to respec-ing for free from then on? In other words, do you pay 3 AAP to respec an infinite amount of times, or 3 AAP per respec?
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1123. post - 2010.12.27. 04:16:21 (Reply to post #1122 of Phalanxii.)
Phalanxii, thank you very much for explaining this. I saw opponents with much lower levels and skills/abilities than I have using more than one pet, and I could not dig up the answer in the forum. I very much appreciate it.
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1124. post - 2010.12.27. 05:40:49 (Reply to post #1115 of quint.)
Quote: quint - 2010.12.25. 22:08:50
Quote: Inv_ - 2010.12.25. 21:59:13
how exactly do challenges work in case of a draw?

i lost several times against people on the skills i have maxed (as attacker and defender).. lower level player wins?


Those situations should be extremely rare, but when they happen, it's decided by tossing a coin. One of the characters is picked randomly to win the challenge.


The only time I have ever won a challenge on a skill that I had at zero was as a defender. I'm sure the defender wins all ties.
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1125. post - 2010.12.27. 08:13:52 (Reply to post #1124 of ImLittleJon.)
Then it's something the developers didn't want to make public. (though I don't get it why) Edit: Or maybe they made a change which wasn't described on the Hungarian wiki. I will try to get to the bottom of this.

Phalanxii, you might encounter that message in case of regular characters too. The base rule of duels is that noone can be attacked more than 5 times in 3 hours. If you are the sixth person to attack the same character in the last 3 hours, you will get that error message instead of a battle. The reason behind this is that with each attack on the same target within the last 3 hours, the amount of SE you can loot from him is decreased by 20%. These percentages are what you can see in the duel list in the SE column. After 5 attacks within 3 hours, they reach 0% so no SE would be awarded to you even if you won.
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1126. post - 2010.12.27. 08:31:42
Your opponent yells a curse at you:
You walking advertisement for contraception!

Now...what just happened?
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1127. post - 2010.12.27. 09:14:41
lololol that is funny ni ce to see the devs have a sense of humour:)
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1128. post - 2010.12.27. 09:20:43 (Reply to post #1126 of Valkyrie.)
Quote: Valkyrie - 2010.12.27. 08:31:42
Your opponent yells a curse at you:
You walking advertisement for contraception!

Now...what just happened?


It is an AA ability. You can choose it and when you loose a duel, your opponent gets a curse like the one you see
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1129. post - 2010.12.27. 10:21:46 (Reply to post #1128 of stekkos.)
Yeah, I got that. What I want to know is what effect it has on me? (other than making me look like a Durex...)
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1130. post - 2010.12.27. 10:44:00 (Reply to post #1129 of Valkyrie.)
Quote: Valkyrie - 2010.12.27. 10:21:46
(other than making me look like a Durex...)


That's the only effect.
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1131. post - 2010.12.27. 16:57:02 (Reply to post #1125 of quint.)
But didn't the developers change energy harness so that the % has no effect. So at 100%, I could loot 1k, like I could loot 1k at 20% (and then 0% too). So wouldn't I still get the SE I wanted?
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1132. post - 2010.12.27. 18:05:57 (Reply to post #1129 of Valkyrie.)
Quote: Valkyrie - 2010.12.27. 10:21:46
Yeah, I got that. What I want to know is what effect it has on me? (other than making me look like a Durex...)


the curse did actually work tho lol it made u ask what else it did:)
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1133. post - 2010.12.27. 21:21:25 (Reply to post #1131 of Phalanxii.)
True, in case of energy harness, but not everyone has that skill. Besides, this is more like a safeguard to prevent anyone being hit too often. The error message is a bit strange, that's true, they could have written something more meaningful or better suited at least, but it would make little difference.
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1134. post - 2010.12.29. 12:42:40
clan Crystal Clan capitulated. You won! The reward +0 charged into the soul-well of your clan.

for real??? 0 se?

their soul well is : 219.002 / 500.000

so someone got a reward

also we had to spend 200k se to neutralize the crappy lvl 10 thingie they casted every day
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1135. post - 2010.12.29. 12:49:47 (Reply to post #1134 of Inv_.)
clan Crystal Clan capitulated. You won! The reward +143593 charged into the soul-well of your clan.
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1136. post - 2010.12.29. 17:18:09
The trade skill can be boosted by a few different things right?
Black Market Relic- increases cap to 180
Huckster Friend AAC- increases cap by 20
Golden/Silver/Bronze Necklace of Trade- boosts by 30/20/10

So what if I get the black market relic after the huckster friend? Does it mean you're stuck at the cap of 190 and the black market relic has no effect?

If it were the other way around, could you push the trade limit to 200 by going to 180 then 200?
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1137. post - 2010.12.29. 18:32:38 (Reply to post #1118 of Inv_.)
Quote: Inv_ - 2010.12.25. 23:21:02
Quote: dark22 - 2010.12.25. 23:14:03
what is the skill in question that you have maxed and do you really have it maxed or MB it to max?


epic specialization @ 50
chronocompensation @ 50


Could you please make a screenshot next time when such a challenge occurs that you lose a test in which your skill is maxed? (without showing the names, of course)

BTW, was your skill at its maximum by default or by using mind boost? Because the boosted part doesn't count in challenges, only the base skill level.
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1138. post - 2010.12.29. 21:27:58 (Reply to post #1137 of quint.)
Quote: quint - 2010.12.29. 18:32:38
Quote: Inv_ - 2010.12.25. 23:21:02
Quote: dark22 - 2010.12.25. 23:14:03
what is the skill in question that you have maxed and do you really have it maxed or MB it to max?


epic specialization @ 50
chronocompensation @ 50


Could you please make a screenshot next time when such a challenge occurs that you lose a test in which your skill is maxed? (without showing the names, of course)

BTW, was your skill at its maximum by default or by using mind boost? Because the boosted part doesn't count in challenges, only the base skill level.


here are 2 challenges involving skills i have maxed :



notice the epic specialization test ..

#2 with 2 skills maxed : epic spec and squeezing



and the relevant skills :

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1139. post - 2010.12.29. 23:08:56 (Reply to post #1138 of Inv_.)
I see. Well, the only thing I can think of is that your targets did have some skill points added beyond the theoretical maximum value of those skills. Were they not clean of the infection by chance? If they were, they could have increased those skills by 5 more points. Or maybe they had the item Book of Knowledge from the Auction Hall which increases the maximum value of each skill by one. Also, if their clans have the Alchemy lab, they might have used essences to increase those skills, although I don't know if that counts in challenges.

Check these, see if any of them could have caused the strange outcome of your challenge.
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1140. post - 2010.12.29. 23:29:44 (Reply to post #1139 of quint.)
Quote: quint - 2010.12.29. 23:08:56
I see. Well, the only thing I can think of is that your targets did have some skill points added beyond the theoretical maximum value of those skills. Were they not clean of the infection by chance? If they were, they could have increased those skills by 5 more points. Or maybe they had the item Book of Knowledge from the Auction Hall which increases the maximum value of each skill by one. Also, if their clans have the Alchemy lab, they might have used essences to increase those skills, although I don't know if that counts in challenges.

Check these, see if any of them could have caused the strange outcome of your challenge.


infection - nope
alchemy lab - nope
book of knowledge - yes

but this is only for this player. it doesn't explain the other players i lose to...
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