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441. post - 2010.03.14. 07:17:16 (Reply to post #431 of Valkyrie.)
Quote: Valkyrie - 2010.03.13. 22:41:17
Stekkos, I still don't get you penguin question...


The answers were:

Mountain
Ice
Desert
Forest

In 3 of these you can find penquins, one you cannot. Which?
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442. post - 2010.03.14. 07:19:55 (Reply to post #436 of Viridel.)
Quote: Viridel - 2010.03.14. 05:02:18
Sorry, but that's horsecrap. Turning it into a question would only confuse the issue. Tell me that this would be rejected:

Scientist - Albert ______?
a) Glickstein
b) Einstein
c) Rhinestein
d) Jacobstein


It's the same structure, but because Einstein is European, this would be approved in seconds.

When I quit World 1 over this, I was pissed - but when World 2c came out, I was hoping the producers of this GAME would realize that they are producing a global game for the English-speaking market.

Dismissing easily discoverable answers, based purely on geography, is racism - pure and simple.



Also in case you get that question as ok, it will be because its a globally known person! The other one deals with a sport known mainly in the US
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443. post - 2010.03.14. 07:28:07 (Reply to post #439 of Viridel.)
Quote: Viridel - 2010.03.14. 05:54:42
You guys don't get it. Any type of European questions, regardless of how obscure, tend to get approved. N.American sports questions, regardless of simplicity/complexity, tend to get rejected.

It's not "how the question was phrased". It's prejudice - pure and simple.

Like I said, I was hoping that the Admins of World 2 would have a better understanding of the global nature of its participants - this obviously isn't the case.


There are NFL questions running in the quiz. I got several. But on the other hand, if someone asks something about a big european football/soccer club, chances are it will be known at a big part of the world (Manchester United or Real Madrid have fan clubs in dozen of countries, outside and inside Europe.) Soccer is a world sport, while the NFL is a USA thing. To prove that, there are a lot of questions about US basketball and its teams and players, since that is a sport played globally and US are the top team, so basketball fans all over the world know about them. There is no prejudice here, mistakes do happen but not at that level.
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444. post - 2010.03.14. 07:33:11
Which.....to defend Viridel's point...

Is a tad.... off.

Considering this Quiz Question:

Which country does Juventus play in?

Which 80% of Americans might not know the answer to either.

So... what he is implying...
is that it is not the manner the question was worded... but simply that it is pertaining an American Sport...as opposed to it being a European one.
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445. post - 2010.03.14. 08:12:52 (Reply to post #444 of Banned.)
I agree, i also think its the sport that got the question rejected. But the Juventus question might be unknown to 80% of americans, while almost any soccer fan ANYWHERE on Earth can answer it, but the NFL question might be unknown to 80% of the WORLD. Understand, its not the fact that is something American, its the fact its something local. What if Chinese players started posting details about a local sport which is unknown to most people out of China? They are after all almost 2 billion people, they might argue they make up a big part of the Earths percentage to justify the question, even if the rest have no idea what they talk about
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446. post - 2010.03.14. 08:37:51 (Reply to post #445 of stekkos.)
Agreed...BUT..
On second thought...here:

http://forum.doomlord.net/ index.php/topic,53.0
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447. post - 2010.03.14. 09:53:58 (Reply to post #429 of aneksi.)
I finally got a good question and now that i can ask another one i notice that my good question is now bad? And the reason being is it said 75% of the people couldn't find the answer. What in the world is thier search engine that this question can not be figured out.

What is considered to be the oldest animal ever?
1-clam
2- alligator
3-sperm whale
4-cockroach

Now i have typed this question into google,IE,wickipedia,answers.com and a few others and it all comes up with 1 answer. The answer mind you i will not tell but can tell you the right answer is over 400 years old. So can anyone tell me why it cannot be found?

Resubmitting cause off the arguement.

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448. post - 2010.03.14. 10:29:48 (Reply to post #447 of aneksi.)
There is no argument to be had. The rejection is automatic when 75% of the people don't know or are too lazy to look for the answer. All you can really do is post it here as a way to vent and share an interesting piece of trivia with the rest of us. It is automatic to filter out the bad questions, but several active hunters have had good questions that end up in the rejected bin.

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I would rather see what I think are good questions rejected with 75% wrong than to see the "special group" evaluation.
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449. post - 2010.03.14. 11:00:33 (Reply to post #441 of stekkos.)
and, like I already said, I didn't know that penguins live in either mountains, deserts (ok, you can regard antartica as desert) or forests. And, apparently, nor did 75% people. So I don't know why you are complaining about this question...
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450. post - 2010.03.14. 11:42:20
Which of the following is not a field position in cricket?

Gully
1st slip
Third man
Off side


The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer.


I want to know this question is deemed to be any more obscure than questions relating to baseball/basketball and ice hockey? I know not everyone plays cricket but at least more than one country does. The other sport related question that get passed often refer to specific USA competetions so how exactly is anyone else meant to know those answers without Googling them.
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451. post - 2010.03.14. 11:44:14 (Reply to post #449 of Valkyrie.)
Valkyrie, i wasnt complaining. I brought these 3 questions as an example of what i believed should have been answered by at least 25%, but in practise i was wrong. Oh, and penquins do live in hot dessert, forest and ofcourse on the ice desert of antartica. Only on mountains you will not find. But again, it wasnt a complain. I thought it was a nice fact to be known, but since it was too hard then i bow to the will of the people
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452. post - 2010.03.14. 11:46:13 (Reply to post #450 of Pastywhitedemon.)
Quote: Pastywhitedemon - 2010.03.14. 11:42:20
Which of the following is not a field position in cricket?

Gully
1st slip
Third man
Off side


The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer.


I want to know this question is deemed to be any more obscure than questions relating to baseball/basketball and ice hockey? I know not everyone plays cricket but at least more than one country does. The other sport related question that get passed often refer to specific USA competetions so how exactly is anyone else meant to know those answers without Googling them.


My guess would be that asking about a specific position was the reason for rejection..... Cricket is a sport played in many countries and there are quite a few cricket questions in the quiz so i feel they didnt reject this just for the sport.
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453. post - 2010.03.14. 14:03:21
My quiz was rejected because According to evaluators the answer is an uninteresting lexical knowledge.

Where is the FIFA World Cup held in 2010?

Brazil
Germany
South Africa
Japan

And after that, I got the same question in quiz olympics. I would understand if the evaluators would have answered that the question is already in use. But now I have to wonder who wrote the question first and how does the evaluators choose the Bad / Good question...
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454. post - 2010.03.14. 17:02:02
And again about the James Bond movie question which there are more than several already.

Including what was the first James Bond movie and what was the first James Bond actor and some question about Bond movies that had Roger Moore as correct answer. And again my question was concerned as according to evaluators the answer is an uninteresting lexical knowledge !?!

How many James Bond movies starred George Lazenby?

1
2
3
4

The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators the answer is an uninteresting lexical knowledge.

May I ask about your evaluation criteria as it seems to be quite RANDOM...
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455. post - 2010.03.14. 20:08:51 (Reply to post #454 of Kain Julianos.)
Ok, i hope the evaluator sees this post since you have a point. Both questions were part of the database before you post them, and i mean months before. So the proper thing was to get the already in database evaluation.
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456. post - 2010.03.14. 23:12:04
i think the evaluators love lord of the rings too - so many questions from that book - fortunately i have read it but anyone who hasn't must be annoyed by now.
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457. post - 2010.03.14. 23:18:53 (Reply to post #456 of Pastywhitedemon.)
Agreed..it seems whatever is currently popular is accepted.

I have never read a Harry Pooter book, and have seen the first movie.... and the books have not been around that long as opposed to most literature questions.

Yet, I have had four different questions pertaining Pooter and the author.
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458. post - 2010.03.14. 23:38:36 (Reply to post #452 of stekkos.)
Quote: stekkos - 2010.03.14. 11:46:13
Quote: Pastywhitedemon - 2010.03.14. 11:42:20
Which of the following is not a field position in cricket?

Gully
1st slip
Third man
Off side


The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer.


I want to know this question is deemed to be any more obscure than questions relating to baseball/basketball and ice hockey? I know not everyone plays cricket but at least more than one country does. The other sport related question that get passed often refer to specific USA competetions so how exactly is anyone else meant to know those answers without Googling them.


My guess would be that asking about a specific position was the reason for rejection..... Cricket is a sport played in many countries and there are quite a few cricket questions in the quiz so i feel they didnt reject this just for the sport.


Isn't it funny that a question about sports not played extensively in Eastern Europe (Cricket, US Football, Hockey) get rejected, but sports that are played there (Soccer/Futball, Basketball, Water Polo) get approved?

Sorry, did I say "funny". Very much not funny actually.
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459. post - 2010.03.14. 23:43:15
I really wish that either ONE Evaluator did the evaluating or they all got together and set a solid decisive set of rules on what is and is not an acceptable question, because I just got this

How many movies, worldwide, have been made based on the Holy Bible?

162
287
45
1875

The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer.

From them, when I just resubmited it, since the first time it was submited it was rejected due to a spelling error, which indicates that it was an acceptable question to the person who looked at it that time.

Expecially when the question "In the Bible, who killed Abel" was considered an acceptable question, one which I have answered several times.


To me it seems like the evaluators are just not all together on what they find acceptable, considering my question has a much broader source (Movies based on the Bible), where as the accepted question has a much more limited source (A single section of the bible).
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460. post - 2010.03.15. 03:14:39 (Reply to post #459 of Twinky.)
Quote: Twinky - 2010.03.14. 23:43:15
I really wish that either ONE Evaluator did the evaluating or they all got together and set a solid decisive set of rules on what is and is not an acceptable question, because I just got this

How many movies, worldwide, have been made based on the Holy Bible?

162
287
45
1875

The question is valued as "Bad, incorrect question"!
According to evaluators only a special group of people might know the answer.

From them, when I just resubmited it, since the first time it was submited it was rejected due to a spelling error, which indicates that it was an acceptable question to the person who looked at it that time.

Expecially when the question "In the Bible, who killed Abel" was considered an acceptable question, one which I have answered several times.


To me it seems like the evaluators are just not all together on what they find acceptable, considering my question has a much broader source (Movies based on the Bible), where as the accepted question has a much more limited source (A single section of the bible).


No, this is just a bad question. If I shoot a movie in my basement, does that count? What if I make a DVD of it and give it to a video store? And how do you define "based on the bible"? Any film where a character goes "God damn it!" or "Jesus Christ!" has a biblical element. Beyond that - worldwide? You know what's going on in some film studio in Nowhereville, North Korea? Lastly, this non-confirmable number is constantly changing, meaning the question is possibly obsolete the day it's approved.

And very lastly - in an international game, let's keep religion out of it completely - things are always more harmonious with less religion involved, not more.
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