as you can see, different players have different philosophies about when to use subplasmas. here's the takeaway: they are legal and harmless. you can ignore than to no detriment. you have additional options, and the one so many of you seem to dismiss involves soft skills not game mechanics. and let me tell you, the endless complaints in this forum do not serve as a deterrent.

"i do not target low level players. i settle for them when bigger torture chamber meals are unavailable."well we have establish by now that this is not true.also let me remind you that if someone has the srarab cannot be dragged to the torture chamber so you will not have anything extra from someone that is 200lvl or 50 lvl below you or from inactive or npc player.so as you see you have plenty of choice for your task with the same gains.i dont know why you have trouble understand it whenso many players telling you the same thing.so let me quote fos words and hopefully you will understand this time
"attacking a player with 200 levels of difference or one with 50 levels of difference gives the exact same soul energy "

catwoman, you are lost.

we continue to bicker over nonsense. you listen only to respond. these are the simple facts to which you have no answer: subplasmas are legal and harmless.

someone is lost but not catwoman manukind

in questions not answer you still avoid to answer what more gains you have when you hit a lvl30 with the lesser scarab than hit a 50 lvls below you or an ncp from the crystal clan or an inactive player. since either hit has nothing to do with the torture chamber

i've answered every question you've asked honestly, thoroughly, and repeatedly. my goodwill is waning. subplasmas are legal and harmless. your ongoing complaints are pointless.

manukind this the only questions that you habeen called to answer and never answer.you are repeating the same thikg over and over again but still not answer that one question

manukind you havent answered that question.you have admitted that you dont gain anything extra since you cannotdrag someone with the scarab( how could you deny that anyway?),you keep saying that hitting someone for 4 days constanly(and maybe more if he havent stoppped you) but his is not "daily" according to you(although you still dont answer when someone can say daily accordingto you,after weeks?months?).baiacally you have ahvent answer any of those questions honestly or not oyu just avoiding them by arguing what is daily according to you

enzio, i have answered ad nauseum. there are no torture chamber gains for attacking you, just the same gains as attacking an inactive player. i made a mistake. if i attack you in the future, it will be on purpose.

catwoman "daily" suggests ongoing. we can debate how many is "ongoing, " but two is not ongoing. it would have to be more than a few. when you assume it will continue, and go premium to stop it, you cannot rationally claim that it would have continued based on your sample size of two.

but these are semantics. here is what matters: subplasmas are legal and harmless. given this, what is your complaint?

manukind one time is mistake,4 times is systemic attacks.and each time you have checked and see that i had the scarab i find it hard to believe that you attack without cheking to see if the other has the scarab or not
" but two is not ongoing. it would have to be more than a few".so 2 and 4 days is not daily so how many few count according to you?a weel?a month?you still dont aswer that.
"when you assume it will continue, and go premium to stop it, you cannot rationally claim that it would have continued based on your sample size of two."so since you were hitting me for 4 days i am allowed to say daily or the next time i must wait for how long until i can say daily?and btw since this was going for 4 days ofcourse i can claim that you would continue unless i have stopped you.if it was 1 or 2 in a week ofcourse i couldnt say it and ofcourse i wouldnt say "daily".now i went back to catwoman post that started all the talk.if you have actually read that you would have sen that wasnt a complain but actually a question.but you jumped so eagerly to defend those kind of attacks.obviously because those are also your kind of attacks.
ad ofcourse i have the right to believe that your next attacks will be on purpose,that was a fact the moment i posted and you couldnt say that i make mistake or lie that you attacked me

enzio, fine, it's pedantic, but if you must have a number, my answer is 4. daily means at least 4 days. after 4 days, you can rationally hypothesize that it would continue, but you might be wrong. in the case of me attacking you in january, you would have been wrong since we know it ended after 4 days. that's why it's unwise to assume. and that's why hypothesize and assume are two different things.

when i attacked you in january, i only checked for your scarab the first time. then i attacked those same 5 targets for 4 days. i wasn't watching all that closely because subplasmas are harmless. so i ask yet again, given that subplasmas are legal and harmless, what is your complaint?

funny think that now you choose the 4 days as daily and all this time you didnt admit even that.for your information though even 3 days in a row consider daily.
"we know it ended after 4 days."we know it ended after 4 days cause after 4 days i become premium and that is the only reason.it is not unwise but justified to assume that you wouldnt stop since for 4 days you never missed a day.
"when i attacked you in january, i only checked for your scarab the first time" apparently either you didnt check even the first time or you didnt care that i had the scarab.
my problem is your attitude to other players.catwoman didnt complain about the attack(she didnt even mention you) and you jumped on defeneding that kind of attacks and pretending that those are happening only for the torture chamber,although you cannot drag them to the torture chamber.the excuse for the task is very lame excuse since you have many ways to complete it with the same gains.so instead of attacking someone here in the forum even if he make a complain pretending the better man and try to excuse those pointless attacks or that you dont do this kind of attacks until someone proves you wrong maybe is better to just dont speak and insulting the intelligence of others.you do that kind of attacks,you enjoy that kind of attacks (for any stupid reason that makes you find them challengiing) and then you send your buddy to hit everyone that dont agree with you and his clan even if they dont even argue with you.so better dont speak and pretend the better man cause you are not

ad nauseum. given that subplasmas are legal and harmless, what is your complaint?

you really have some trouble to understand the simpliest things right?i have already answered you.i really start to think that is not that it is not that you dont understand but you just keep repeating the same thing just annoy everyone.

it is not that he doesnt understand,no matter how many times you answer him he will keep playing the same record with the same question avoiiding to admit the actual reason for that kind of attacks.....and it is not about the task

i'm not asking the reason. the reason is moot since subplasma attacks are legal. they do not need to be justified. i'm asked the problem. since subplasma attacks are harmless, what exactly is your complaint?

ok i dont speak all this time but you are asking for it manukind.i will make it as clear as possible and i hope to understand it.the prob;em is yours and your friend lvl of stupidity.the attacks that you do is not about a task or to gain something from the torure chamber,because you dont get anything and you can do your task without annoying anyone.it makes no difference if you hit a crystal clan npc or a player with the scarab that is 200 lvl below,that is something you cannot deny.you and your buddy make those attacks hust to annoy other players or i dont know maybe you have this inner need to feel important because you manage an opponentthat cannot fight back while you afraid to fight somene that you might loose some HP?who knows?the reality is that you just keep proving your lvl of stupidity and obsession.the result?you making players either to leave the game or go to the catacombs and then start crying that there are no active players.so to make it more simple to you cause you have problem in understanding.players are mostly annoyed about your lvl of stupidity and obsession to ruin their game for your need to feel important(which by the away it is more challenging to fight someone that you actually fight and might have some hit than just hitting someone that is 200 lv below and not chance to even hit you).now you can pass this to your friend since altthough i didnt involved on your argument you send him to start hitting everyone on the clan or his own lvl of stupidity is higher than yours and think that he is doing something important.if you cannot engage on a conversation dont engage,if you do it make the conversation dont send your buddy to do your battles for you.it doesnt change anything we understand that is your command your dog is following.
P.S. you can say to your friend to come even 2 times per day it will be the same result except that he will be proving that both of you are twice the stupid i think you are.

finally someone told things as they really are.i hope you understand it now manukind.not that something will chance your friend will continue hitting because someone argue with you and you will keep playing the innocent and "i have nothing to do with it it is just a coincidence that start hittin youand your clan the moment someone of your clan argument with me"

thor77, you did not answer the question. since subplasma attacks are harmless, what exactly is your complaint?

ultimately, my motive is irrelevant, as is whether you believe i'm being honest about my motive. i can attack you for my torture chamber, for SE, for a task, for a quest, mistakenly, or merely out of spite - it's all legal. the question is why such a harmless attack bothers you so much.